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Old September 30 2010, 10:33 PM   #1
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Relics

Definitely a curate's egg this one. It was great to see Scotty again but held in the transporter for 75 years? I don't really think so

Secondly the so-called Dyson sphere. We are asked to believe that someone had constructed a sphere almost as large as the entire solar system. No! No! No! No!

I know that we have to suspend a lot of belief to watch Star Trek but even after 40 years this one is too big to swallow.

It was a fun episode though
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Old September 30 2010, 11:21 PM   #2
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....We are asked to believe that someone had constructed a sphere almost as large as the entire solar system. No! No! No! No!

Not the entire solar system.......just roughly the size of the Earth's orbit around the sun. Much more feasible . There, all better now.
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Old September 30 2010, 11:29 PM   #3
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Secondly the so-called Dyson sphere. We are asked to believe that someone had constructed a sphere almost as large as the entire solar system. No! No! No! No!
They weren't asking you to believe in something new; it was an existing concept. Granted, it wasn't what Freeman Dyson had in mind, but the point is that Dyson shells have been depicted in s.f. before. Don't blame the episode for that one.
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Definitely a curate's egg this one.
Hey, I learned something new today--the definition of that phrase, thanks to some googling. Who says TBBS isn't educational?

And the "unscientific" parts of "Relics" did nothing to spoil the great story, IMHO.
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Old October 1 2010, 12:23 AM   #5
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OOOO, those are some good points but, i think we've accepted that the theory of relativity is out the window this giant sphere isn't really a problem. Also, if this is such a great engineering feat why not make it an oval sphere it only needs to be as thick as the sun at the middle to contain the class m planet.
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Old October 1 2010, 10:52 AM   #6
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....We are asked to believe that someone had constructed a sphere almost as large as the entire solar system. No! No! No! No!

Not the entire solar system.......just roughly the size of the Earth's orbit around the sun. Much more feasible . There, all better now.
You know, I just knew that someone was going to say that. Of course that makes all the difference. (Pedants of the world unite )
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Old October 1 2010, 10:53 AM   #7
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Definitely a curate's egg this one.
Hey, I learned something new today--the definition of that phrase, thanks to some googling. Who says TBBS isn't educational?
Happy to oblige.
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Old October 1 2010, 10:55 AM   #8
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Secondly the so-called Dyson sphere. We are asked to believe that someone had constructed a sphere almost as large as the entire solar system. No! No! No! No!
They weren't asking you to believe in something new; it was an existing concept. Granted, it wasn't what Freeman Dyson had in mind, but the point is that Dyson shells have been depicted in s.f. before. Don't blame the episode for that one.
Didn't know that. I still think it's "unbelievable" though even in in SF terms.
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Old October 1 2010, 01:41 PM   #9
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A ringworld would have been better. We know Niven likes Trek.

So the plot is the Enterprise discovers the largest thing in the galaxy, and also discovers a Dyson sphere.

What?

One nitpick: When the Jenolin had its shields up when the Enterprise beamed people off and torpedoed it.
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Old October 1 2010, 03:51 PM   #10
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A ringworld would have been better.
One nitpick: When the Jenolin had its shields up when the Enterprise beamed people off and torpedoed it.
Much older ship with different shield technology or Enterprise was aware of the shield resonance frequency and beamed through them, much like a ships torpedoes do in order to fire through their own shields
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Old October 1 2010, 09:06 PM   #11
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Riiiiiight.



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