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Old September 23 2010, 06:16 PM   #1
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Expect More Harsh Reality In New 'Stargate: Universe'

http://www.airlockalpha.com/node/782...-universe.html

According to series star Alaina Huffman, who was last seen shot in the stomach at the hands of the Lucian Alliance, the second season will force the characters to deal with their new circumstances on the ship of the Ancients in very different ways ... and not all of them will sit well.
"They have some hardships in Season 2," she told GateWorld. "All of them. And because, again, weve developed the characters and their personalities, were able to play on that. Were able to play with each other and off of each other."

"I think for the series, Im really proud of the time we took to develop the characters," Huffman said. "I know there was a little bit of negativity surrounding that, and [some saying] that it was too character-driven. But I feel like the consequences are greater, and the story is told more [richly]. Now its a story of these characters we know and love and the circumstance they are in, instead of just the circumstance.
"So Im really proud of that, and Im really proud of the transition that some of the characters have made, particularly my character. I think she strengthens and matures into her role a lot, and I think you see that "


Yawn! i miss SG-1
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Old September 23 2010, 08:12 PM   #2
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Re: Expect More Harsh Reality In New 'Stargate: Universe'

While I can appreciate bringing more realism into the show, I don't want them to introduce hardships just for the purpose of giving the characters hardships. It'll feel fake, contrived and forced.

I am however interested more in S2 than I was in S1, the previews look pretty good, the latest one has me excited. I want more action though, and some great space based battles and whatnot. I think the more serious tone of the series would lend itself well to some really great space battles. They really need to pick up the pace of the series though, S1 drug stuff out too long.
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Old September 23 2010, 11:46 PM   #3
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Re: Expect More Harsh Reality In New 'Stargate: Universe'

Most of the characters i dont like so i dont care about their hardship and woudnt mind if they kill half of the cast off. No one is really likeable on this show so its kind of boring to watch them cry and whine etc.

If i wanted high harsh drama i would go watch a play. Why spend all of this money on sets and ships if they are just going to sit in a room or rooms and bitch and fight each other.

Pick up the action and explore and less about how characters react to stuff.

Am i the only one that found the last 2 episodes boring and slow? This show is going to get killed on tuesdays if they dont make it funnier and more interesting.
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Old September 24 2010, 12:33 AM   #4
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Re: Expect More Harsh Reality In New 'Stargate: Universe'

^ The show doesn't need more humor, it simply needs a massive infusion of good characterization and not conflict for the sake of conflict but rather conflict that is organic, naturally borne out by the story instead of forced on the characters. One of the failings of the show so far is that there have been situations where Young could have avoided civilian unrest if he were to actually talk to Wray and let her know what's going on. As it is, season one contained too much forced conflict. Exploring the military-civilian mistrust can be done and could be interesting; it just unfortunately isn't being handled well so far. You're right that it needs to be more interesting, as well. It would be nice to see the crew move forward with their exploration of the ship, for instance, or more details on the alien race that held Rush & Chloe. Some good "coming together for the sake of all" stories would be nice to get to, as well.

Again, I disagree with the basic notion of "funnier" but I don't think there needs to be a dearth of humor, either. Sometimes the only way to react to all the shit going on around them may be to laugh, but the writers need to tone down Eli, in my opinion, because he is annoying as hell and not funny at all. There should always be some humor in some occasions, of course, but I wouldn't want to see it go too far, otherwise I could just load up an episode of SG-1 or Atlantis. SGU set out to do something different for the SG franchise, and I think it has the potential to achieve that if the writers step up their game.

Of course, whether or not this writing staff is capable of doing that is an entirely different question... Perhaps the show also needs a massive shake-up in the writing & production staff.
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Old September 24 2010, 12:46 AM   #5
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Re: Expect More Harsh Reality In New 'Stargate: Universe'

It's sad that it is only 1 season in and fans are wanting a shakeup of the writing and production staff.
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Old September 24 2010, 12:54 AM   #6
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I only brought up that idea because, if I'm not mistaken, this is essentially the same SG-1 and Atlantis staff. I'm more than willing -- eager, even -- to be convinced that they can pull off a grittier, darker entry in the franchise. They have done good character work in the past, so I hope season 2 is where things really begin to gel for SGU. But if quality isn't on a general and strong uptick over the course of the first half of season 2, then it might be something those in charge of the show should consider. An infusion of new blood might (note that I said might) be necessary, but I'm not actually calling for a shake-up yet.
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Old September 24 2010, 12:55 AM   #7
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Re: Expect More Harsh Reality In New 'Stargate: Universe'

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It's sad that it is only 1 season in and fans are wanting a shakeup of the writing and production staff.
Well, yes and no. This particular series may be new, but most of the writers have been part of the franchise for half a decade (or longer) so creative fatigue isn't altogether shocking. On the other hand, with a new setting and characters, I had hoped the writers could deliver. They haven't. And that is a little sad.

EDIT: Beaten to it.
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Old September 24 2010, 01:52 AM   #8
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Re: Expect More Harsh Reality In New 'Stargate: Universe'

Mallozi needs to go, the arrogant $%&.

They spent time and bored most of us to tears telling us all about characters that are totally unlikeable, nasty and uninteresting... without actually telling us much about them at all.
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Old September 24 2010, 03:29 AM   #9
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Re: Expect More Harsh Reality In New 'Stargate: Universe'

I'm at the stage where I'm watching it because it's Stargate, not because of good storytelling or interesting characters. I have never watched a show where I hated every single character, and this is pretty darn close.
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Old September 24 2010, 03:39 AM   #10
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"More" harsh reality? I wasn't aware the show had any to begin with.

Oh right, everyone's cranky and bitchy and aside from a spaceship and the occasional alien, there's practically no sci-fi elements at all. Right, forgot, that's what makes this the "realistic" Stargate.
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Old September 24 2010, 06:06 AM   #11
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It's sad that it is only 1 season in and fans are wanting a shakeup of the writing and production staff.
We actually started 6 months before the show debuted.
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Old September 24 2010, 06:11 AM   #12
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Re: Expect More Harsh Reality In New 'Stargate: Universe'

You know what I really wonder, why do they keep forcing this crap on the fans, when the fans don't want it? It's like they are saying, hey look, we know you guys want it, we just know you do, even if you say you don't, we know what you want and we are going to give it to ya, pow right in the kisser
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Old September 24 2010, 04:15 PM   #13
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Re: Expect More Harsh Reality In New 'Stargate: Universe'

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You know what I really wonder, why do they keep forcing this crap on the fans, when the fans don't want it? It's like they are saying, hey look, we know you guys want it, we just know you do, even if you say you don't, we know what you want and we are going to give it to ya, pow right in the kisser

They must be Democrats!


What were the ratings last year? Seeing how Warehouse 13 is far Right of this show, how did Universe ratings measure up to Warehouse 13?
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Old September 24 2010, 06:48 PM   #14
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"More" harsh reality? I wasn't aware the show had any to begin with.

Oh right, everyone's cranky and bitchy and aside from a spaceship and the occasional alien, there's practically no sci-fi elements at all. Right, forgot, that's what makes this the "realistic" Stargate.
"Aside from a spaceship..."

This right here is what makes me think there's no pleasing fans. They'll move the goal posts to justify the fact that they just don't like it.

Probably half or just over half of season 1 was /predicated/ on science fiction concepts almost entirely. The much-hated communication stones turn simple character drama into a science fiction complication, and despite what haters believe, have been used sensibly and with restraint. The show's done time loops, realistic aliens that don't rely on conventional TV show gimmicks to save money and have a funny forehead person each week.

The survival scenarios in the series that have evidently bored most fans are entirely dependent on the science fiction elements of the show; the characters have had to deal with radiation, alien chemistry, navigating unknown star configurations, and zomg, alien computer systems that can't simply be cracked because "stand back man, I'm a hacker".

There were things that could have been better (and from all appearances, they're working on it). But so much of the whining about Universe has been based around, in the end, fans who just don't like it and not because there's something fundamentally wrong it it.

It's okay you know, to just not like something. You don't have to like the idea of the show. I don't like legal dramas, but that doesn't mean Law & Order is a bad show with a list of 10 crucial flaws I could dream up just 'cause.
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Old September 24 2010, 07:02 PM   #15
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SGU writers seem to think hash reality is who sleeps with who and starting bitch fights.
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