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Old September 21 2010, 03:15 AM   #31
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Re: The Event: "Pilot" - Sept. 20 on NBC - Grading & Discussion

I'll give this episode an Above Average for the WTF at the end. But I didn't enjoy this episode as much as I wanted to. As noted above, the flashbacks didn't really work and they served to make things more confusing.

But how many pilot episodes are the best episodes of a series? I can't think of too many. Lost's pilot was pretty good as was Voyager's and DS9's, but that's all I can think of. Actually, this pilot kind of reminded me of how I felt after Fringe's pilot 2 years ago. It felt like there was a potential for a good show buried in there somewhere, and it turns out that in Fringe's case, that was correct. I'm not yet sure about The Event. For now, I'll keep watching.
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Old September 21 2010, 03:23 AM   #32
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^ Yeah, but while Fringe was far from compelling, it nonetheless had a fairly tight focus on its three main characters -- it really went to lengths to establish their personalities and chemistry. There's absolutely none of that merit here.
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Old September 21 2010, 03:25 AM   #33
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Re: The Event: "Pilot" - Sept. 20 on NBC - Grading & Discussion

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^ Yeah, but while Fringe was far from compelling, it nonetheless had a fairly tight focus on its three main characters -- it really went to lengths to establish their personalities and chemistry. There's absolutely none of that merit here.
Agreed. The only reason I'm going to tune in next week is because of the plot (specifically the plot twist), not the characters.
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Old September 21 2010, 03:25 AM   #34
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I'll give this episode an Above Average for the WTF at the end. But I didn't enjoy this episode as much as I wanted to. As noted above, the flashbacks didn't really work and they served to make things more confusing.

But how many pilot episodes are the best episodes of a series? I can't think of too many. Lost's pilot was pretty good as was Voyager's and DS9's, but that's all I can think of. Actually, this pilot kind of reminded me of how I felt after Fringe's pilot 2 years ago. It felt like there was a potential for a good show buried in there somewhere, and it turns out that in Fringe's case, that was correct. I'm not yet sure about The Event. For now, I'll keep watching.
That's a good point. But I can't think of a pilot that doesn't offer that much, like this one did in my mind. If that WTF moment at the end didn't happen, I don't think I'd be watching next week. Also, depending on how inspiration this takes from 24 or, let's say Heroes, the pilot will blend into the rest of the season, where there are no real stand out episodes, as they all serve to advance the plot.
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Old September 21 2010, 03:26 AM   #35
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And no amount of "whoa" at the end of the episode makes up for 59 minutes (or 42 sans commercials) of ridiculous and mind-numbingly unnecessary plot twists.
This I can agree with to some extent. I can understand them wanting to introduce the characters (after all, it is the pilot episode), but I think they tried to introduce too much all at once.
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Old September 21 2010, 03:28 AM   #36
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Am I the only one who wasn't really all that wowed by the actual event?
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Old September 21 2010, 03:32 AM   #37
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Am I the only one who wasn't really all that wowed by the actual event?
I'm guessing that wasn't "The Event" as referred to by the title or that mysterious lady character.

But as for the "wow" factor ... I tend to agree. It gets a "whoa" because planes disappearing into thin air is a "whoa" kinda thing. But you had to expect a deus ex machina moment there because, obviously, they weren't going to kill off the President, his advisers and the mysterious lady character.

Killing all of them off would have been, "wow."
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Old September 21 2010, 03:36 AM   #38
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Well that was...interesting.

I'm not sure what the flashbacks were trying to show, but the whole episode could have been compressed into about 5 minutes and the twist at the end would still have the same impact.

As a side note, the fire alarm went off in the middle of it and I didn't feel like I missed anything at all.

I'll probably be sticking with this anyway just to see where this goes.
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Old September 21 2010, 03:36 AM   #39
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Why do showrunners thing that the way to make a better version of Lost is to make a more confusing version of Lost?
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Old September 21 2010, 03:40 AM   #40
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Jusry is still out for me, will see how next week's episode goes.
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Old September 21 2010, 03:44 AM   #41
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Why do showrunners thing that the way to make a better version of Lost is to make a more confusing version of Lost?
Because they forget that what made Lost so special to begin with was its heavy emphasis on character building, while dropping in subtle hints of its larger mysteries as background. It's all well and good to have a grand mystery and a deep mythology for a show, but without characters audiences care about ... audiences won't care much about the mysteries. That's why I (very quickly) gave up on Flashforward.
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Old September 21 2010, 03:49 AM   #42
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I agree with everyone here. The flashbacks were completely unnecessary. I hope to God they don't plan on doing that for the entire season. It felt like it was trying to hard to be like Lost and totally missed the point. We were compelled to watch Lost because we loved the characters and wanted to see how they dealt with the mystery. This instead is a mystery in search of some characters to drive it along. I can't even remember anyone's name now that it's over. I'll give it an episode or two because I'm kinda of curious about the end but not so curious that I'm going to sit through another disjointed episode flashing in and out every five minutes.
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Old September 21 2010, 03:49 AM   #43
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Well, first thing that comes to mind is that they are really trying to outdo Lost's flashbacks with all the time jumping. I mean obviously this show is gonna be compared to Lost.

Overall, interesting, I want to know what the event is. First impression I got was someone from the future. Also got a millenium vibe, the movie.
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Old September 21 2010, 03:53 AM   #44
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Reading these posts, I'm glad I'm dvr-ing it.

Pilot episodes are usually splotchy.
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Old September 21 2010, 04:04 AM   #45
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This show's no Lost, but it's not bad. I like mysteries and plan to continue watching just to see what's going on. And yeah, I know they'll string us along forever.

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So was that Oceanic 815?
I was thinking that they should have made the plane an Oceanic Airlines flight. Then I thought... Nah. Too much of a Lost connection.
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