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Old November 14 2010, 08:47 AM   #136
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Re: Why does Germany get the cool novel covers?

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Rest assured that the translation as it appears on the cover is accurate. However, I would have preferred a less literal translation, perhaps even an original title.
Oh? Is there something not quite right about Den Frieden Verlieren?
I wouldn't go so far as to say that, but the tendency at CrossCult seems to be to take the English title and translate it word for word*, which sometimes works out and sometimes doesn't. To my subjective ears, Den Frieden verlieren doesn't sound not as good as Losing the Peace.

*They occasionally do come up with new titles or variations of the original ones (cf. A Singular Destiny or Precipice, which is why I was rooting for the same to be done here. In the end, though, it all comes down to what the translator and the editor at CrossCult decide upon.)
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Old November 14 2010, 10:36 AM   #137
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^Funny, I think it's one of the times were the literal translation actually fits rather well.

But I agree in principal, sometimes the literal translations just don't sound as good, a good example would be Declassified ( Freigegeben). It might be the correct translation, but it just doesn't fit 100% in my opinion.
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Old November 14 2010, 11:03 AM   #138
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^ i second this statement. this time it ended up quite well. but otherwise... (gonna let silence speak for itself )

although, my german i way to rusty to read TrekLit, i do stay up to speed.
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Old November 14 2010, 03:16 PM   #139
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*They occasionally do come up with new titles or variations of the original ones (cf. A Singular Destiny or Precipice, which is why I was rooting for the same to be done here. In the end, though, it all comes down to what the translator and the editor at CrossCult decide upon.)
What were the new titles for those ones?
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Old November 14 2010, 05:54 PM   #140
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A Singular Destiny became Einzelschicksale (which translates back as Individual Fates), while Precipice became Vor dem Fall (Before the Fall).

There's also Before Dishonor (Heldentod - Death of a Hero), Taking Wing (Eine neue Ära - A New Era), and Q & A (Quintessenz - Quintessence, unsurprisingly enough). These are the ones that got retitled; all the other ones (over twenty so far) had their titles translated.
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Old November 14 2010, 06:13 PM   #141
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^ some of those are actually pretty good.
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Old November 14 2010, 06:14 PM   #142
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Two of the upcoming titles were retitled, too:

The Star to every Wandering
Der Leitstern des Verirrten - The Lodestar of the Lost

Rising Son
So der Sohn - Like Son (as in "Like father, like son" I suppose)
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Old November 14 2010, 06:52 PM   #143
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A Singular Destiny became Einzelschicksale (which translates back as Individual Fates)
Actually that sounds to me like an attempt at a literal translation that misunderstood the intent -- interpreting "singular" to mean simply "separate, individual" rather than the intended sense of "extraordinary, remarkable."

while Precipice became Vor dem Fall (Before the Fall).
Now, that's a good example of translating the underlying sense of the title effectively.
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Old November 14 2010, 09:26 PM   #144
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Two of the upcoming titles were retitled, too:

The Star to every Wandering
Der Leitstern des Verirrten - The Lodestar of the Lost
I don't consider that an entirely new title, since it appears to originate in a more recent translation of Shakespeare's sonnet 116.

Rising Son
So der Sohn - Like Son (as in "Like father, like son" I suppose)
Right, I missed that one.
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Old November 14 2010, 09:33 PM   #145
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Two of the upcoming titles were retitled, too:

The Star to every Wandering
Der Leitstern des Verirrten - The Lodestar of the Lost
I don't consider that an entirely new title, since it appears to originate in a more recent translation of Shakespeare's sonnet 116.

Ah, I haven't read the book since the original release, and not being a Shakespeare buff, I forgot it was a quote from a Shakespeare sonnet.
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Old November 14 2010, 09:33 PM   #146
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A Singular Destiny became Einzelschicksale (which translates back as Individual Fates)
Actually that sounds to me like an attempt at a literal translation that misunderstood the intent -- interpreting "singular" to mean simply "separate, individual" rather than the intended sense of "extraordinary, remarkable."
Agreed. Not only does the title lose some of its meaning, it is almost distorted.
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Old November 14 2010, 09:38 PM   #147
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^Well, the (most fitting) literal translation of Precipice would have been (Der) Abgrund, but since that's already the title of the DS9 novel Abyss I guess they went for Vor dem Fall.

ETA: That was in reply to a part of SPCTRE's post he seems to have edited out after I started my reply.
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Old November 14 2010, 09:38 PM   #148
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Ah, I haven't read the book since the original release, and not being a Shakespeare buff, I forgot it was a quote from a Shakespeare sonnet.
Neither am I, as it happens. I like watching the plays, but as for reading his poetry, that's a little too far outside my current comfort zone.
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Old November 14 2010, 09:42 PM   #149
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ETA: That was in reply to a part of SPCTRE's post he seems to have edited out after I started my reply.
Yeah sorry about that, I realized too late that that part of my post was a complete and utter brainfart
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Old November 26 2010, 02:22 PM   #150
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CC has released a (first?) cover draft for "Das höchste Maß an Hingabe", the German translation of Enterprise: Last Full Measure.

You can find it here.
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