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Old September 16 2010, 11:06 PM   #1
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If they had replicated the mobile emitter

What would they have done with it? Would they have created a whole new crew?
I wrote a story idea for an episode about this issue which I'd love for you to critique (http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?p=4393518#post4393518) but this thread is about your opinions. So what do we think?
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Old September 16 2010, 11:14 PM   #2
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Re: If they had replicated the mobile emitter

The mobile emitter replicated becomes too powerful. Just say to the computer "create a hologram capable of defeating data" a few times and...

hang on, i'm going off topic here but...

if they can do that, why not say to the computer "create a hologram capable of researching improved ftl? get a group of them together, stick them in holodeck 2 and pop by every month to see how it's going!
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Old September 17 2010, 03:24 AM   #3
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Re: If they had replicated the mobile emitter

I too always felt that holograms made no sense for that reason.
Holograms are basically computer programs capable of researching better than a normal person. If Starfleet knew what was good for them then they would have thousands of holograms just researching.
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Old September 17 2010, 06:23 PM   #4
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Re: If they had replicated the mobile emitter

They can't do that! If they could replicate the mobile emitter, there'd be no reason for security people to die anymore!!!
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Old September 17 2010, 09:03 PM   #5
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Re: If they had replicated the mobile emitter

Temporal prime directive.

Janeway is legally supposed to put that thing into a lock box or fire it into a sun.

Using it should have wound her up in jail.

Many things are unreplicatable (Though that episode of DS9 with Humpidink from the princess Bride showed that Replicators didn't need to understand what they were doing to make copies of ineffable technology.) and if they were sending archaeologists soldiers back into time, well the least tptb should wrangle to preserve the time line is to make sure it's almost impossible for history to steal, use and mass produce their technology.

Unless they're idiots.

And as for Holigrams, don't forget they can work at super speed like in wink of an eye processing data hundreds of thousands of times faster than humans... Not that humans can't do the same thing as we found out in DS9 hard Times when O'Brien went to jail for two decades one afternoon.
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Old September 18 2010, 12:04 AM   #6
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Re: If they had replicated the mobile emitter

I thought you had to know how all the components worked before you could replicate it?

They still didn't Be'Lanna say she still didn't completely understand how it worked?
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Old September 18 2010, 12:07 AM   #7
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Re: If they had replicated the mobile emitter

Even if they replicated the components, imagine how complex the machine code would be...

i would say that would be the real stumbling block, you could conceivably replicate all the components, but not have a clue how to programme them...
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Old September 18 2010, 12:26 AM   #8
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Re: If they had replicated the mobile emitter

Starling handled it just fine.

The ship could have had holoemitters put everywhere, and they were almost after the Killing Game, but they could have had as much more crew as they felt like... Though all they really needed to enhance security was to install ankle height Forcefields running along the horizontal plane of the ships corridors. Bad guys don't twirl their moustaches so well when they don't have any feet.
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Old September 18 2010, 04:36 PM   #9
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Re: If they had replicated the mobile emitter

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Starling handled it just fine.
Staling just slapped it on the Doc's shoulder.
It doesn't show any indication he knew how to recreate one.
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Old September 18 2010, 06:08 PM   #10
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Sure. But we're just talking about 29th century machine code.

Starling handled THAT fine.

I mean it's not like he blew up the solar system or anything.
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Old September 18 2010, 10:35 PM   #11
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Re: If they had replicated the mobile emitter

Janeway could have given it to Michael Sullivan and had her self a full time boyfriend.
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Old September 18 2010, 10:43 PM   #12
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Re: If they had replicated the mobile emitter

...

Just no!
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Old September 19 2010, 02:49 AM   #13
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Sure. But we're just talking about 29th century machine code.

Starling handled THAT fine.
..which he used to crate technology in the 21st century.

A bar code scanner isn't close to the tech of a mobile holoemitter. It's only one small component of a much more complex machine. He only created what he could understand from it.
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Old September 19 2010, 03:49 AM   #14
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Re: If they had replicated the mobile emitter

Again, not saying he did create a mobile emitter or that he could.

I made a comment about: Maassshhhhheeeeennnn Code.

He turned his office into a holosuite.

Sure he probably just replicated emitters and hung them all in place with picture hooks, but he did pretty good for a hippy who wandered across a downed starship.
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Old September 21 2010, 07:18 AM   #15
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Presumably the emitter contained non-replicable matériel. I got the impression the replicator could only make pretty basic items.
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