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Old March 8 2014, 05:24 AM   #1036
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The clip

When I saw someone transform the toy like that, I just thought someone found it funny not to fully transform the figure. It's something else to see them use it on the show.
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Old March 8 2014, 06:02 PM   #1037
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I wonder if they'll show that scene in the American version.
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Old March 8 2014, 06:05 PM   #1038
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By the way, I've been watching Dairanger, thanks to the link you provided. It's the first Super Sentai show I've watched (unless you count the Japanese Spider-Man as a prototype), and it's interesting how different it is from Power Rangers. Every story is a 2-parter, they only gradually introduce the Zords/mecha, only a few episodes so far have ended with giant-robot battles, etc. There have even been instances of characters not following the expected formulas of the genre -- in only their second opportunity, the Rangers had the good sense to prevent the monster from dropping the bomb that would make it giant, while conversely there was one point where the monsters attacked them in mid-transform and kept them from finishing. It's also a lot darker, yet also a lot more kid-oriented in some ways. (And episode 8 totally rips off the Luke/Vader/Palpatine scenes of Return of the Jedi right down to the force lightning.)
That sounds good. I wish we were getting stuff like that now.
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Old March 8 2014, 06:30 PM   #1039
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So... the Megazord does whatever the Rangers imagine it doing? And the Red Ranger imagined it doing... that. I guess that's not surprising in a boy his age...

By the way, I've been watching Dairanger, thanks to the link you provided. It's the first Super Sentai show I've watched (unless you count the Japanese Spider-Man as a prototype), and it's interesting how different it is from Power Rangers. Every story is a 2-parter, they only gradually introduce the Zords/mecha, only a few episodes so far have ended with giant-robot battles, etc. There have even been instances of characters not following the expected formulas of the genre -- in only their second opportunity, the Rangers had the good sense to prevent the monster from dropping the bomb that would make it giant, while conversely there was one point where the monsters attacked them in mid-transform and kept them from finishing. It's also a lot darker, yet also a lot more kid-oriented in some ways. (And episode 8 totally rips off the Luke/Vader/Palpatine scenes of Return of the Jedi right down to the force lightning.)


From my understanding, Super Sentai that year with Dairanger was mimicking "Star Wars"

The year before with Zyuranger was "Wizard of Oz"

Bandora/Rita- The wicked witch of course
Griffizor/Goldar- Flying monkey's





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Old March 8 2014, 07:12 PM   #1040
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From my understanding, Super Sentai that year with Dairanger was mimicking "Star Wars"
To some extent, yes -- there's also a recurring music cue that's clearly a pastiche of the Imperial March/Vader's theme. But I don't see that much similarity. Dairanger is mainly based in Chinese mythology and chi/ki power, and revolves around a battle of ancient civilizations revived in the present. Although I guess there is a similarity between KiRyoku/YouRyoku and the light and dark sides of the Force.


Well, this week in Super Megaforce we finally get a focus on a pre-Disney season, specifically Wild Force, as the Rangers travel to Animaria to find the Red Lion Wildzord (why just the one?) and spend a lot of the episode in Wild Force costumes. We also got like a five-second glimpse of the Black Alien Ranger in a brief "Legendary Mode" sequence that didn't really go anywhere. And the streak of featuring SPD in every single episode continues unbroken.

The continuity with WF wasn't great. The island was called Animaria here, while in WF it was called the Animarium and was the last surviving fragment of the ancient land of Animaria. Also, I have to wonder why Princess Shayla never showed up to meet/assist the Rangers. Not that I was in any hurry to see Anne Marie Crouch and her maudlin overacting again, but it seems Shayla logically should've been there. Also, did the Red Lion's "mane" always flare forward like that when it roared? I don't remember that.

I liked the use of the costumes with the helmets off in the ship scenes. But I wonder why they kept Troy apart from the rest of the team.
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Old March 8 2014, 07:32 PM   #1041
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this week in Super Megaforce we finally get a focus on a pre-Disney season, specifically Wild Force
Everybody seems to make this mistake. Wild Force was a Disney season; they simply kept MMPR Productions open as its primary production company.
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Old March 8 2014, 07:46 PM   #1042
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Oh, right. I remember now that it was kind of a "transitional" season. What I should've said was "a pre-New Zealand season"; WF was the last PR season shot in California.
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Old March 8 2014, 07:59 PM   #1043
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^ It's all good.

Re: the Animaria/Animarium thing, it's a 'Washington vs. Washington D.C.' scenario and really isn't that big of a deal.
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Old March 15 2014, 03:17 PM   #1044
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Well, I just finished watching all of Dairanger on YouTube. It was pretty interesting, though I think it kind of fell apart at the end there, like they tossed in some new ideas at the last moment and didn't really think about continuity.



Also, when I started to watch, I'd forgotten that this was the season with the kid who turned into a Ranger. Kou wasn't quite as annoying as Justin in Power Rangers Turbo, but I could've done without him and his sexual harrassment of Rin.

I think I'm going to continue and watch Kakuranger, since that's the other season that had most of its costumed action footage unused or radically repurposed in the corresponding Power Rangers season. I've always been curious to see how the "Alien Ranger" stuff worked in its original context.

Beyond that, though, I'm not sure what other seasons I might choose to watch. I'd be open to recommendations for seasons that are:

1) Available on YouTube.
2) Good, or at least decent.
3) Ideally, very distinct from their Power Rangers equivalents, if any.
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Old March 15 2014, 05:01 PM   #1045
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1) Available on YouTube.
2) Good, or at least decent.
3) Ideally, very distinct from their Power Rangers equivalents, if any.
Youtube limits the options but I suggest Gekiranger, I loved it, unlike many other sentais it's very serialized with a heavy focus on the villains.
Personally I didn't fell in love with the series until the Kenma were introduced, I think in episode ... 10?
Some ideas and concepts were reused for Jungle Fury but there are enough differences, especially on the villains's side, their motives are totally different. It's probably the season with the best villains in the last decade and it helps that they weren't just rubber suits.
Don't let Jan's way of speaking dissuade you from watching the show, many people are annoyed by it but it fits the character and his backstory.

If you want to see a series that's really distinct from it's counterpart watch Go-Onger, I don't think it's possible to be more different than RPM, it's good (although it's on the wacky side) but I'd still suggest Gekiranger, it's the better show imo.

If you want to go in another direction and watch a show that's really similar to its PR counterpart I suggest Shinkenger, Power Rangers Samurai copied large chunks of the show directly but there's still a huge difference in quality, it's interesting so see how much of a difference minor changes (and shoddy acting) can make.

Here's the first episode of Gekiranger



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They are all on the same channel, the guy also has some others, they're all decent to good, he hasn't uploaded any duds as far as I'm concerned, Magiranger (Mystic Force counterpart) is also good, I especially enjoyed the family aspect of the show, the rangers are all brothers and sisters and their relationships are explored by pairing them up differently, almost every episode focuses on a pair of them.
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Old March 15 2014, 05:46 PM   #1046
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Gekiranger

Very arc heavy. If you can stand Jan's voice it's a really good series. The music amplifies the experience.
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Old March 15 2014, 06:31 PM   #1047
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Thanks for the recommendations.

Meanwhile, over in Super Megaforce, we get our first guest stars from a previous series, namely Jayden and Master Ji from Samurai. And if this is how the guest appearances are going to be handled, we shouldn't expect much from the rest. Just brief scenes with very little interaction with the current Rangers -- not all that interesting. I guess I shouldn't expect any real character interaction on this show, but at least have them work together more directly, stand together in facing the monsters.

Heck, we got more characterization for the villains this week, as we learned that Prince Vekar is a blustering coward with daddy issues. Hopefully they'll actually take that somewhere. And it was nice seeing the Rangers confront the main villain in person and trash-talk him some.

A lot of note in the Legendary Ranger modes this week. We finally get Mighty Morphin, which really should've been the first Legendary Ranger mode back in the season premiere (corresponding with Goranger being the first in Gokaiger). And we get Lost Galaxy right afterward, making this the first one to prominently feature not only one but two teams from the first Saban era.

Also, we got a surprising number of non-Power Ranger Sentai costumes. Troy donned the RyuuRanger costume from Dairanger for the second time, though only briefly (and oddly it took me a moment to recognize it even though I just finished binge-watching Dairanger -- I guess the different film quality threw me off). And we saw a couple of other modes from older series. According to the RangerWiki, Gia briefly became Yellow Mask from the 1987-8 Maskman (apparently one of the best from the era) before changing into the very similar-looking Yellow Space Ranger. And Emma briefly became Pink Flash from Flashman, the '86-7 season.
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Old March 15 2014, 07:07 PM   #1048
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My thoughts in bullet-form:
* Ji!!!! Nice to see Rene again, especially since the synop didn't mention his involvement

* Vekar (great pronunciation, BTW) is awesome. He's the perfect contrast to Vrak and the perfect embodiment of the 'elder spoiled sibling who has everything handed to him and consequently thinks he's more impressive than he actually is' archetype. I loved that he formally introduced himself to Earth, and promptly got verbally and physically smacked down by the Rangers

* It was great seeing the MMPR powers again, even if they weren't terribly effective

* Great introduction for Jayden. Too bad the girls missed out on meeting him

* Lost Galaxy nostalgia

* Unexplained powers don't bug me because they can be chalked up as editing errors and don't matter in the long run

* "Legendary Ranger Mode.... IN SPAAAACE!!!!!"

* Double disk Samurai Power wins the day

* Red WF Lion + Samurai power = awesomeness

* Nice to see Jayden and Ji impersonating Waldorf and Statler minus the snark and negativity

* Obligatory Mia's cooking joke and Gia intentionally making Jake jealous scene= Yay!


I was hoping we'd see Jayden suit up, but he didn't really need to, and the way they used him reminded me of Adam's involvement in Always a Chance and the Jungle Master introduction episodes from Jungle Fury.

5 out of 5 for this ep.
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Old March 15 2014, 07:34 PM   #1049
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* Unexplained powers don't bug me because they can be chalked up as editing errors and don't matter in the long run.
Why would they need to be errors, though? We've had plenty of prior evidence that Power Rangers exist on other worlds like Aquitar, Mirinoi, KL-35, etc. So it stands to reason that there are a lot of Ranger teams that haven't been seen on Earth. Something like the glimpse of the Turborangers in part of the recycled footage in last week's episode can be considered an editing error because it didn't fit the narrative structure, but the Dairanger, Maskman, and Flashman costumes here were clearly intended to be shown. Emma specifically said "Bet you didn't see this coming" when she changed to Pink Flash. (A name which, by the way, sounds a lot kinkier to an English speaker than was probably intended...)

Actually I wouldn't mind if they had Gosei mention that one or more of these hitherto-unknown costume sets belonged to Rangers from Japan. Then they could refer to them by their actual names.
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Old March 15 2014, 07:54 PM   #1050
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^ I thought the appearances of Mask Yellow and Flash Pink were more fleeting than they were... hence my comment.
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