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Old October 21 2011, 01:57 AM   #1201
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Agreed. She builds it up and makes it epic and ominous. Whereas it was supposed to be conversational and matter-of-fact for the first part. Then, after he gets hit with the lightning, the delivery should have been - shrug of the shoulders, throwaway tone-of-voice - same thing that happens to everyone else.
Even acted like that, it's groan worthy.

It's funny how people say how the line was SUPPOSED to be said. If EVERYBODY else was told this, why wasn't the actor delivering the line told this? And the director making sure it was said correctly while filming it? Or is this simply an after-the-fact excuse?

Hope there aren't any of these excuses for The Avengers. The trailer looks fun, so, so far, so good.
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Old October 21 2011, 02:22 AM   #1202
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Well Joss was no longer involved with X-Men by that point. And I'm sure Singer wasn't bothered by how the line was "supposed" to be said, since it was one of two lines that survived from Joss' script.
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Old October 21 2011, 03:02 AM   #1203
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I'm guessing the reason why people are bringing it up is because it is one of a few acknowledged lines from Joss still in the screenplay. I have to agree with some of the others that Barry's delivery was off on that line...and she really wasn't the right person to cast as Storm.
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Old October 21 2011, 05:18 AM   #1204
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It's not like Joss can do no wrong. I don't believe anyone is saying that, nor am I saying that. I merely said I was geeking out because he is writing and directing this film. Because when Joss is on, oh baby he is ON
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Old October 21 2011, 05:37 AM   #1205
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Yeah. He's usually on when he's really excited about his project and who wouldn't be excited directing the world's mightiest heroes?
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Old October 21 2011, 04:28 PM   #1206
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I don't remember being bothered by the frog line in X-Men. Thought it was funny and cute.
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Old October 21 2011, 05:13 PM   #1207
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In my mind I could always picture a 5/6th season full witched out Willow delivering that "toad" line with more credibility.

I think Joss writes some lines with a particular delivery style in mind and Halle Berry didnt' know how to deliver it like Joss wrote it.
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Old October 21 2011, 05:17 PM   #1208
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Then again, I'm not sure that delivery style is very Storm-esque. Minor point overall. I forgot the line existed.
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Old October 21 2011, 05:20 PM   #1209
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I don't see a Joss Whedon anywhere in the writing credits for X-Men?
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Old October 21 2011, 05:27 PM   #1210
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Then again, I'm not sure that delivery style is very Storm-esque.
I wouldn't know about that.
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Old October 21 2011, 10:03 PM   #1211
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I don't see a Joss Whedon anywhere in the writing credits for X-Men?
That's because there was virtually nothing left of his script in the final product, so he wouldn't have been awarded a writing credit.
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Old October 21 2011, 11:57 PM   #1212
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^ Yep. He wasn't given any credit. He ended up just being one of several previous draft writers when it was all said and done.
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Old October 22 2011, 12:28 AM   #1213
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I don't remember being bothered by the frog line in X-Men. Thought it was funny and cute.
I suppose that it depends on how the viewer perceives the delivery. Personally I found the moment to be overwrought and melodramatic, which was seemingly not the intended tone. Whedon seemed to think that Berry ruined it, but to be frank that Harrison Ford quote mentioned by JarodRussell does come to mind. If Whedon wanted a particular tone from the dialogue, he should probably have indicated that in the script. Brackets are the scriptwriter's friend. That's not to say that he didn't, of course. Maybe it's just that Berry was as spectacularly bad in that scene as she was throughout X3.

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^ Yep. He wasn't given any credit. He ended up just being one of several previous draft writers when it was all said and done.
Two lines, however contentious, don't usually warrant a credit.
Would love to attribute Wolvie's one-clawed salute at airport check-in to Whedon, but I don't think that it was his.

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Old October 22 2011, 02:06 AM   #1214
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Then again, I'm not sure that delivery style is very Storm-esque.
I wouldn't know about that.
Well, I only have knowledge based on the 90s cartoon growing up, but she always seemed to be overly grandiose in everything she did.
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Old October 22 2011, 02:15 AM   #1215
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Storm was acted better on the page than in the movies.
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