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Old March 26 2012, 01:00 AM   #2101
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@Trekker...Ang Lee's attempt at "Hulk" was to do an art house type comic book film, while it accomplished this, I disagree that it was too "full of it's self". It really focused on a lot of the psychological issues that the characters had among themselves (and if you know anything about the Hulk and his supporting cast, this is a theme that continually gets explored). I think the main problem fans have with it...is that for the first attempt at a Hulk film we all had expectations and certain things we were looking for and wanted to see (for instance an action based film with Hulk smashing a lot of stuff) and people were turned off by the serious introspective nature of the film. I have to admit that I didn't like it at first, but after watching it a couple more times since that first viewing, I've come to enjoy it. Louis Leterrier's was far more balanced in it's approach to the character and the things fans wanted to see, despite still containing a lot of flaws.
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Old March 26 2012, 02:19 AM   #2102
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About Ang Lee's Hulk... I always go back to reading the Agony Booth's recap of it, as I find it enjoyable and points out a lot of issues I have with the movie, and its internal logic (or lack of it).
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Old March 26 2012, 05:23 PM   #2103
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I liked the Ang Lee film because of its focus on characters (the father-son thing always works for me). I also thought he nicely grasped the essence of the Hulk as a character in his own right: he desires to be free and left alone. The expression on his face when he's leaping before the army starts attacking him captures this nicely.

The action scenes had a kinetic quality which I think is pretty rare in cinema and though more of them would have been nice what is there is sufficiently good to make up for the scarcity. I was surprised to see Ang Lee's name attached to something so Hollywood and I was surprised at how well it turned out.
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Old March 26 2012, 06:19 PM   #2104
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The only real problems I had with the Ang Lee Hulk movie were that I didn't find the father a terribly effective or interesting character... though I do not fault Nick Nolte for this... and I find the climactic battle scene almost impossible to watch because of how darkly lit it is. In fact, in the theater, I had to do a lot of guesswork as to what was actually going on. I find that while I ultimately favor the story presented in 2008's The Incredible Hulk, I love the "art house" method of direction by Ang Lee and I prefer Jennifer Connelly as Betty Ross.
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Old March 26 2012, 07:11 PM   #2105
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http://www.superherohype.com/news/ar...g-cards-images

a featurette and a look at some trading cards.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/ar...avengers-promo

this rooskie video has a few new clips of Widow in action, as well as a load of previously footage and a buncha clips from IM2
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Old March 26 2012, 08:17 PM   #2106
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So over the last few days I've been watching each of the MCU movies in my preferred viewing order (IM1>IM2>TIH>Thor>Cap). I just watched Thor last night, and while doing so I found out that I'm a total moron. I got the Blu-ray back in October, for my birthday, and it also came with a DVD copy. Well, they put the DVD copy on the side of the case that you see right away when you open it up, and hid the Blu-way behind some advertisements on the other side, which I never took out. I've watched the movie three times since I got it in October (including last night), and I only just realized last night that all this time I've been watching the DVD version, not the Blu-ray. I'd been wondering why the picture looked so off!
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Old March 26 2012, 09:35 PM   #2107
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So I was watching TV with my daughter (age 11), and a spot for the Avengers comes up. She knows of the big hero characters (and she saw "Thor"), but her interest piques up drastically when she see the 'Black Widow':


Daughter: Oooh, there's a girl hero in the Avengers?

Me: Yep

Daughter: So.. What is her special power?

Me: ... eh... She can spy?

Daughter: [confused look on her face]


She's very much into strong girl characters, and I think she was hoping for something more equivalent of the big male characters.
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Old March 26 2012, 09:48 PM   #2108
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Show her Natasha kicking ass in IM2 and then say Widow doesn't need super-powers to be as good as the boys.
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Old March 26 2012, 10:09 PM   #2109
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Natasha Romanova can make any of her fellow Avengers look like complete idiots in about 0.2 seconds if she bothers to put any effort into it.

Plus: She looks pretty good for being 84.
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Old March 26 2012, 10:10 PM   #2110
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Maybe they'll introduce Carol Danvers and turn her into Ms. Marvel sometime during "Phase Two" of the MCU, or whatever they're calling it. A female hero who can go toe-to-toe with the heavy hitters would be cool.
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Old March 27 2012, 02:22 AM   #2111
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About Ang Lee's Hulk... I always go back to reading the Agony Booth's recap of it, as I find it enjoyable and points out a lot of issues I have with the movie, and its internal logic (or lack of it).
Yeah, I think that recap does a very good job of pointing out the many, many, flaws in the movie. (The 0 body count being chief among them.) The actions scene(s) near the end were good but it was preceded by a lot of bullshit.
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Old March 27 2012, 03:26 AM   #2112
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So over the last few days I've been watching each of the MCU movies in my preferred viewing order (IM1>IM2>TIH>Thor>Cap). I just watched Thor last night, and while doing so I found out that I'm a total moron. I got the Blu-ray back in October, for my birthday, and it also came with a DVD copy. Well, they put the DVD copy on the side of the case that you see right away when you open it up, and hid the Blu-way behind some advertisements on the other side, which I never took out. I've watched the movie three times since I got it in October (including last night), and I only just realized last night that all this time I've been watching the DVD version, not the Blu-ray. I'd been wondering why the picture looked so off!
That means that you haven't watched the Coulson short in the Thor bluray? Go watch that and the one in the Cap bluray!
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Old March 27 2012, 03:36 AM   #2113
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Yeah, I never saw The Consultant until last night, when I finally realized my error.

It was pretty cool, but I liked A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer on the Cap Blu-ray a lot more. The Consultant felt more like a retcon to explain a change in direction after IM1 and TIH were released.
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Old March 27 2012, 03:49 AM   #2114
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Yeah, I never saw The Consultant until last night, when I finally realized my error.

It was pretty cool, but I liked A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer on the Cap Blu-ray a lot more. The Consultant felt more like a retcon to explain a change in direction after IM1 and TIH were released.
Agreed, I liked more "A Funny Thing" also.
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Old March 27 2012, 04:40 AM   #2115
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Natasha not being able to handle her own with the boys was brought up again? Didn't we already cover this a few weeks ago? Also it appears that 'Tasha will be apart of the "Iron Man 3" cast according to this:

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/03/...-3-appearance/

Not surprised by this since she was introduced in "Iron Man 2" of course. Looks like she'll be an integral part of the film if this is true.
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