AVENGERS - movie Discussion, News, Interviews, Pics till release 2012

[Mage]

Flying Spaghetti Monster wrote:

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keep in mind that, unless you are George Lucas, most opinions are stated as if they are facts, and it's up to smart people to be able to tell the difference. and "in my opinion the Jedi are evil" is not as effective as "the Jedi are evil,' despite the fact that it is an opinion.

No, when you use the word 'is' you state a fact, not an opinion. If you ment is an opinion, you need to state it as an opinion, otherwise you get mis-communication.

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

In my first post a few pages ago, it's clear what my "opinions" and in the foillowing post I only used 'is" in the same way you mean it once:

Let's not forget, too that superhero onwi (sp?) is starting to settle in with the populace. This could be good, sure, or it could be another Green Lantern. Many people will wait to see the Tomatometer and realize that critics will think it's crap.

I don't think even superhero fans would argue that ennui is starting to set in

[AvBaur]

Flying Spaghetti Monster wrote:

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... but I think the casual moviegoer will look carefully at the Tomato Meter.

I don't think the "casual moviegoer" EVER looks carefully at the Tomato Meter. Otherwise, stuff like the Transformers movies wouldn't make billions of dollars.

[Admiral_Young]

^ Agreed. Movie and genre fans check out site like Rotten Tomato and the like. Casual movie goer will maybe go by their favourite reviewer or by what they hear on television or from friends and family who've seen the film.

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Maybe maybe not. But they will quickly hear if this film clicks or if it's just a mash-up with a disjointed script...

[Admiral_Young]

Sigh. Why do you continue to rant if you obviously don't like Joss. You've made your point quite clear in the thread on multiple occasions. It's obvious that it won't change...maybe you'll see the film and change your mind but what is the point of continuing to rant about something you seem to hate right now?

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

It's not Whedon I hate (I do think he is not as good as he thinks he is).
It's not even that I'll hate this film.

But I just can't wait until films go back to telling stories.

[Admiral_Young]

Films do tell stories...and fairly well at times as well. Maybe you aren't watching the right films that do this.

[JD]

I don't, I thought the other Marvel movie all told some pretty damn good stories myself. Ok I'll admit, the might not have always been the most original stories, but they were fun, and when it comes to movies that's really all I want.

Flying Spaghetti Monster wrote:

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It's not Whedon I hate (I do think he is not as good as he thinks he is).
It's not even that I'll hate this film.

Where does that come from? I'll admit, I haven't read or watched alot of stuff with him, but I never got the impression that he was that much of an egotist.

[Obiwanshinobi]

I posted a link to this podcast interview a couple pages back and I'll posted it again. Whedon talks about his life and his career, and big ego definitely does not come to mind.

http://www.nerdist.com/2011/12/makin...3-joss-whedon/

[Agenda]

Flying Spaghetti Monster wrote:

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It's not Whedon I hate (I do think he is not as good as he thinks he is).
It's not even that I'll hate this film.

But I just can't wait until films go back to telling stories.

Don't bother. On this board if you're not in "gush mode", you're the enemy. You must be positive about everything and anything. Any deviation is not accepted...even if you're reasonable about it.

[Vendikarr]

The way I see it is people have been going out to see the Marvel movies over the last few years. And they have been going in large numbers.

If you have seen more than one, you've seen that these films have been building up to The Avengers.

If someone has seen more than one Marvel film recently, they will most likely be going to see the Avengers.

So suck or not, Avengers will have a killer opening weekend. After that, the strength of the story will matter. But the film will have made it's tens of millions by the.

[TheBrew]

Beyond Antares wrote:

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Don't bother. On this board if you're not in "gush mode", you're the enemy. You must be positive about everything and anything. Any deviation is not accepted...even if you're reasonable about it.

Well I guess that delusional rantings surely seem reasonable to the man spouting them.

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

I haven't seen every film leading up to the Avengers, but from what I cant ell, they are pretty flimsy in terms of story. Nick Fury to the hero of the film; 'We are putting a team of extraordinary people together... you should join." There is so little dramatically, thematically or anything beyond that line in each teaser. Oh, aside from Loki has something that only people familiar with the comics will know WTF it is!"

[Anwar]

Uh...I'm pretty sure there's more to each Movie film that leads to Avengers than Nick Fury walking up to them to say "I'd like you to join the Avengers."