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Old July 27 2010, 12:44 AM   #16
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Re: Could "Inception" work as a TV series? (hypothetical)

There you go thanks for the correction...so then that renders my idea irreverent then.
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Old July 27 2010, 03:13 AM   #17
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I definitely think the basic concept could work on TV.

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I can see it working as a TV show. I think what you would need to do in order for the show to remain fresh is to have the character working toward something during the show. For example, like how Richard Kimble was trying to determine the killer of his wife on The Fugitive.

The film worked because Cobb was essentially a fugitive and he was doing these "mind heists" because he was trying to get home to his kids.
Or good old fashioned cold war hijinks. Getting inside the head of the rival spy to see what he knows to help the boys back home. Give our hero a rival who works for the other guys. And maybe some issues about a spy within his ranks. Since it's the future, maybe the cold war of season 1 goes hot in season two and the dream war with our rival agents of mind-stealers becomes a major focal point.
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Old July 27 2010, 03:30 PM   #18
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I thought about this after I saw the movie, and I agree that it would get pretty stale as an episodic mission of the week show. It needs to have an ongoing arc, and it would have to be really good to keep a show with Inception's premise going.

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Well, I don't see Leo doing TV.
He will eventually just like every other movie star.
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Old July 31 2010, 04:35 AM   #19
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It could definitely work as one of those ever-popular police procedurals with sci fi window dressing. You'd have futuristic Dream Cops who enter people's minds to solve crimes. You could also have them fight criminals who do the same thing with nefarious purposes. I'm surprised there isn't a show like that already! (As noted above, this is an oooold idea - Dreamscape must be, what, 20 years old?)

The dreams themselves wouldn't be too wild & wooly so you could do it on a TV budget. Inception's dreams weren't nearly as wild as real dreams anyway, so there's no contradiction there.

The real question is whether re-making Inception as a cop show would suck all the fun out of it. Put it on HBO or AMC and maybe it could be psychologically deep and interesting. Put it on Skiffy or USA and it would be formulaic garbage.
Could the stories work without ALL the action we saw in the Nolan feature film?
I found it comical that dreams would follow the obvious tropes of a Hollywood movie - car chase/shoot out/fist fight/explosion/repeat. So if the show had less formulaic action like that, more power to it!

Imagine a dream in which the battle is entirely verbal and psychological, with nary a Humvee or package of C-4 in sight. A TV version of Inception could be better than the movie.
Recast him with, I don't know, the guy from "Chuck."
Yep, Zach Levi's my first choice, too. Either him or Christopher Gorham (who has a show that's doing well, but Chuck probably has one season left in it before it needs to bow out gracefully).

It was mentioned by Arthur in the film that it was first created and used by the military (probably as a physical means to remote view others dreams and find out what enemy countries are plotting).
Remote viewing is a separate concept but a parallel one that could form the basis of yet another sci fi/cop crossover. (And another one I'm surprised doesn't already exist.) It's not impossible that when the whole dream thing starts to wear out its welcome, the show could evolve the technology so that something like remote viewing is also part of the story mix.

One change from the movie I'd insist on: there shouldn't be so much confidence in the literal meaning of what they see in dreams. Just because someone says "I believe XYZ" in a dream in no way means they literally believe that in real life. XYZ probably stands for something completely unrelated to whatever the dream is literally presenting. To be honest about the dream scenario (and more complicated and interesting), the Dream Cops would need to interpret everything they discovered properly. "I believe XYZ" might actually mean the opposite, or they might have to ferret out the true meaning of XYZ.
Since it's the future, maybe the cold war of season 1 goes hot in season two and the dream war with our rival agents of mind-stealers becomes a major focal point.
This starts to remind me of the premise of The Stars My Destination, in which technology so greatly invades the privacy of people that it starts to have serious repercussions on society. Maybe the Dream Cops are dream defenders, keeping interlopers out of their clients' heads? Once it's know how to invade other people's dreams, everyone will be paranoid and afraid even to sleep.

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Old July 31 2010, 06:22 AM   #20
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This starts to remind me of the premise of The Stars My Destination, in which technology so greatly invades the privacy of people that it starts to have serious repercussions on society.
That sounds more like "In the Light of Other Days." Normally, I wouldn't be so pedantic, but I just spent a minute looking it up because I couldn't remember the title, and wanted some commemoration of my effort.
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Old July 31 2010, 06:56 AM   #21
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Normally, I wouldn't be so pedantic, but I just spent a minute looking it up because I couldn't remember the title, and wanted some commemoration of my effort.

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Old July 31 2010, 05:25 PM   #22
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This starts to remind me of the premise of The Stars My Destination, in which technology so greatly invades the privacy of people that it starts to have serious repercussions on society.
That sounds more like "In the Light of Other Days." Normally, I wouldn't be so pedantic, but I just spent a minute looking it up because I couldn't remember the title, and wanted some commemoration of my effort.
I actually read that book, years and years ago. "The Light of Other Days" is, however, about a technology that allows you to view anything, anywhere, either occurring right now or in the past (allowing people to see Shakespeare's production of Hamlet; the real life of Jesus of Nazareth and a boy masturbating in the house across the way, to cite three examples actually in the book).

In other words while it does have society-shattering technology that winds up with a world where privacy and lying are outmoded notions, it doesn't really deal a lot with the idea that people's dreams or sleeping life is under threat - indeed, the internal mind is the only sanctum the characters have left.

Also: The basic concept behind "The Light of Other Days" would make a brilliant if very high concept and, inevitably, incredibly controversial TV show.
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Old July 31 2010, 07:52 PM   #23
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This starts to remind me of the premise of The Stars My Destination, in which technology so greatly invades the privacy of people that it starts to have serious repercussions on society.
That sounds more like "In the Light of Other Days." Normally, I wouldn't be so pedantic, but I just spent a minute looking it up because I couldn't remember the title, and wanted some commemoration of my effort.
I wasn't thinking so much about the specific tech as the idea of tech having severe repercussions for a society. Sci fi abounds in examples, that was just the first that came to mind.
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Old August 1 2010, 09:01 PM   #24
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I think it has the potential to be a great tv series. The theme/arc of the first season could be the audience coming to realise that the characters are lost deep with a multi layered dream, and the characters are trying to work their way out. For me, something like that would have far more interest than the "job of the week" format (which it would probably more likely end up being.) The second season could end with the relaisation that they are in fact still lost, despite that being the apparent resolution of season one.
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Old August 1 2010, 09:27 PM   #25
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There would be network pressure to make the show conform to some kind of weekly procedural format to make it accessible to sporadic viewers. But I think this premise has a rare opportunity to combine the deadening cop show format with an underlying arc, which would emerge as "what reality are we in, anyway?"

The characters blithely assume that they're in the "correct" reality when they emerge from the weekly job but over time, start to see signs that they maybe be wrong in that assumption. Then they have to somehow figure out a way back that doesn't involve committing suicide.

For people who are into arcs, we could follow along with theories about whether they are still in a dream and where that happened. For people who just want the procedural, they can ignore all that guff.

The rules of the game would require a lot of explanation, but TV is more forgiving of that stuff than a movie, where it becomes obnoxious if it takes up too much screen time. On TV, the rules can be doled out over several episodes and never slow things down.
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Old August 1 2010, 09:35 PM   #26
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The characters blithely assume that they're in the "correct" reality when they emerge from the weekly job but over time, start to see signs that they maybe be wrong in that assumption. Then they have to somehow figure out a way back that doesn't involve committing suicide.
That's how I see it could work, too. I think it would have a nice attraction to the "one off" viewers and the "arc-fans".
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Old August 1 2010, 10:20 PM   #27
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I could see it working as a weekly series, but I think that I would grow tired with the rather unimaginative dream states pretty quickly (even quicker on a television budget, which wouldn't allow for the moments of striking imagery that appear in the film like the folding city or the variable gravity). At that point, it's not much more than a procedural. And if you're going that route with a science fiction series, I'd be more interested in a remake of Alien Nation, or even that Gattaca series that was in development.
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Old August 1 2010, 10:28 PM   #28
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Well, I don't see Leo doing TV.
He will eventually just like every other movie star.
He started out on TV in Growing Pains.

Even Clooney's not above doing a guest spot since he did one in the last few episodes of ER.

Also it wouldn't be uncommon for the character of Cobb to be recast.
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Old August 2 2010, 03:33 AM   #29
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I think it could work in a similar way that quantum leap. It would be prohibitively expensive though.
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Old August 3 2010, 07:36 PM   #30
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They could keep the budget in line by presenting dreams that are more psychological than dazzling SFX extravaganzas. I've never had a dream where I folded a city in half. Dreams have freaky things but they're often just variations on reality that have symbolic significance to the dreamer.
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