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Old July 25 2010, 08:26 AM   #61
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Re: Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides Teaser

Prisoner of Azkaban is my second favorite Potter movie, my favorite being Order of the Phoenix which is my second favorite of the books. The Pirates people are gonna be upset that we're near hijacking their thread.
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Old September 13 2010, 05:37 PM   #62
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the opening to Pirates of the Caribbean 4 (spoilerish)
a few details about how the opening scene will play out (minor spoiler ahead):
http://blastr.com/2010/09/pirates-of...aribbean-1.php
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Old September 14 2010, 05:27 AM   #63
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I wonder how they will introduce Captian Jack this time around. We left him in his bouy last time, we could see a similar intro to that of CotBP. It's hard to top that one though.
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Old September 14 2010, 09:41 PM   #64
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I liked his introduction in Dead Man's Chest too. That was hilarious!
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Old September 14 2010, 10:30 PM   #65
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I can't wait to see the new film. Hmm...it might be alittle weird not having Will or Elizabeth Turner in it.
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Old September 15 2010, 01:58 AM   #66
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^ Actually, I'm hopeful it might be better... I found that the Will & Elizabeth story dragged the last two movies down a fair bit.

To each his own, though, of course.

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Old September 15 2010, 04:03 AM   #67
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No, I agree with that sentiment. I liked Will and Elizabeth, but I think their story ended in the first movie. They didn't need to be shoehorned into the sequels. But what's done is done.
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Old September 15 2010, 07:20 AM   #68
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I liked his introduction in Dead Man's Chest too. That was hilarious!
They all were funny, the last one was just weird, but funny. When I saw the Captian for the first time though, I cracked up literally laughin out loud.
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Old September 15 2010, 02:53 PM   #69
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Jack's intro in the first movie is one of the best intros of any character in any movie ever made...
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Old September 15 2010, 03:29 PM   #70
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^ Actually, I'm hopeful it might be better... I found that the Will & Elizabeth story dragged the last two movies down a fair bit.
Agreed, and by the time we got to 3 it was glaringly obvious.

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Jack's intro in the first movie is one of the best intros of any character in any movie ever made...
Agreed here as well. I'm even on the fence about my enjoyment of the trilogy as a whole but one cannot deny his entrance in COTBP is a modern classic.
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Old September 15 2010, 05:32 PM   #71
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Most of the supporting cast is gone, a new director is being brought in....
Johnny Depp is the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise. The supporting cast exists for he soul purpose of allowing him to chew scenery all day and all night long.

While Will Turner was originally intended to be the protagonist, it didn't turn out that way, mostly due to the force of Depp's performance.
Actually I seem to remember a thread here a while back in which a quote from the filmmakers was produced, naming Elizabeth Swan as the protagonist of all three films. She is the center of both the very first and very last scenes, after all...

As for Pirates 4 - Pirates 3 took a good thing in Jack Sparrow and proved that you could, indeed, have too much of it.
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Old September 17 2010, 12:06 AM   #72
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The book by Tim Powers was great. I hope some of it survives being turned into a PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN movie.
I picked up an out of print book club edition from Powell's this summer. I'm currently a little over halfway through it. It's pretty good, although it was a little stiff in the beginning. I'm wondering which characters will be carried over into the film. Since Will Turner is gone, I thought that Jack Shandy would be a perfect candidate to be Jack Sparrow's new straight man. I instantly hear Captain Barbosa's voice in my head whenever Captain Davies says anything. Really, the only difficulty in directly adapting the book would be figuring out where Jack Sparrow fits in.

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I think had Depp refused to do this movie it wouldn't have happened. I have a feeling they'll continue making these movies so long as they make money and so long as Depp plays Sparrow.
Yep. And supposedly Depp has a great affection for Sparrow (much in the same way Harrison Ford isn't shy about saying he'd love to keep playing Indiana Jones until he dies). Depp was much quicker to agree to come back for the sequels than Bloom or Knightley. And isn't Depp getting paid something like $60 million for doing On Stranger Tides? Although, I think that may be a 2 picture deal that includes an option for either Pirates of the Caribbean V or The Lone Ranger. Still, it would tie him for the record for the most highly paid actor for a single film in Hollywood history. (The only others to make $30 million on one film are, IIRC, Arnold Schwarzenegger for Terminator 3 & Tom Hanks for The Da Vinci Code.)

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Don't hold your breath. It's from the same writers as the last two films, which were pretty bad and over-bloated in my opinion.
Perhaps, although, like I said, I really loved the novel by Tim Powers. And I've seen comments from the TPTB that maybe they realize that that the previous PIRATES sequels were a bit "bloated" as you said. Hopefully, with the novel serving as a solid foundation, they can effect a course correction.
I think that, by jettisoning Will & Elizabeth, the 4th film will be able to avoid the pitfalls of Dead Man's Chest & At World's End. Those 2 films were trying too hard to have a BIG story, ignoring the simple hero-and-rogue-rescue-damsel formula that worked so well in The Curse of the Black Pearl (and the original Star Wars for that matter).

Even then, I thought that The Curse of the Black Pearl was longer than it needed to be. Although, even when it's long, it's still smart enough & fun enough to make decent use of that extra time (unlike the Transformers movies, which are so mind bogglingly stupid that I think even 90 minutes would be a strain).

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As for TVH, that's still the best example I can think of a fourth movie that, for most people, did not disappoint. To the contrary, it was actually more popular than any of the prior movies.

That may have had less to do with the fact that it was light-hearted than with the fact that you didn't need a degree in TREK history to understand the movie. Once you got past the opening bit with the Klingons, you had an engaging time-travel lark that didn't really require any prior knowledge of the STAR TREK universe . . . .
Can you think of any other examples? I can't.
I can.

What?
That was going to be my entry as well.

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Captain Jack Sparrow crosses paths with a woman from his past (Penelope Cruz), and he's not sure if it's love--or if she's a ruthless con artist who's using him to find the fabled Fountain of Youth. When she forces him aboard the Queen Anne's Revenge, the ship of the formidable pirate Blackbeard (Ian McShane), Jack finds himself on an unexpected adventure in which he doesn't know who to fear more: Blackbeard or the woman from his past.
—Disney's official press release
That's the official summary for those that are wondering.
I like it! Jack Sparrow falls in love was in my mental conception of a 4th movie as well. (But then, my version also included a brief cameo by a pregnant Elizabeth Turner.)

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Something I've been thinking about.

We have POTC4 coming out next year, but where are the other pirate movies? It's been seven years since the first POTC, but there haven't been other big budget pirate movies that have been released with the exception of this franchise. Studios still don't want to take a chance with this genre. That's a shame.
Water movies are still damn expensive. And at least this time, Hollywood seems to understand some of the nuances of audience tastes. We're far less interested in a seafaring movie than we are in a fun little action picture where Johnny Depp plays crazy. It's about the characters, not the setting. IIRC, Master & Commander: The Far Side of the World didn't do particularly well.

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How is this even a teaser? It's just Johnny as Captain Jack talking about the movie fourth wall directly to the audience at comic con. A teaser is something that might show something from the actual movie. Quite frankly they should have stopped making these films after the first movie. I enjoyed the first film and I enjoyed Depp's performance in it. The second was okay and I refuse to watch the third and have no interest in this fourth movie.
Agreed.
I am disinclined to acquiece to your opinion.

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Mind you, I think Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is better than Last Crusade and probably better than Temple of Doom...
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