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Old July 17 2010, 06:33 AM   #31
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Re: "Haven" (new SyFy series starring Emily Rose) - Discussion & Spoil

Mary Knows Best is softening my critical stance against this show.
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Old July 17 2010, 08:42 AM   #32
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Okay, I'm split about this one. For about 95% of the show, this had to be one of the most stupid episodes of television I've ever seen -- and I watched like 20 of the 22 Painkiller Jane episodes! But there was genuine payoff to the whole thing, even if that payoff didn't require everything stupid that came before it. I guess we sort of have our mythology to the show now.
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Old July 18 2010, 01:51 AM   #33
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Not too bad. Even though I don't care for Stephen King.
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Old July 18 2010, 07:04 PM   #34
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Wow, this was even more boring and predictable than the pilot. Seriously, did anyone not figure the kid was behind it all? This show is written in far too derivative a manner to deliver any actual surprises, and the tone is way too mild and after-school-special-y.

Next week,
If they can't make that scary, I give up.
Not too bad. Even though I don't care for Stephen King.
This show has about as much to do with Stephen King as the Telletubbies.

Mary Knows Best is softening my critical stance against this show.
There's a method to skiffy's madness: bad scripted shows combined with mind-bendingly idiotic "reality" shows that will make their scripted shows look good by comparison.
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Old July 18 2010, 07:39 PM   #35
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The rolling ball effect at the beginning when it was close up with the butterfly was absolutely awful.

Also, supposedly the episodes are out of order and this is the third episode.
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Old July 23 2010, 11:16 PM   #36
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Re: "Haven" (new SyFy series starring Emily Rose) - Discussion & Spoil





Anyone still watching this show?
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Old July 24 2010, 12:07 AM   #37
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Waffling. I love Stephen King. Not sure about this adaptation. But I haven't listened to the audio book so I'm not sure if the lack of compelling storytelling is his fault or theirs.
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Old July 24 2010, 12:50 AM   #38
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I'll watch tonight. If they can't draw some chills out of this episode's setting, then the show must be declared hopeless.
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Old July 24 2010, 06:59 PM   #39
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^ The ad was misleading. The inmates were running the asylum for about two minutes at the beginning of the show.

I may be done with this show. Emily Rose is cool and the location is different, but the writing is pretty horrible.
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Old July 24 2010, 07:35 PM   #40
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Argh. Maybe I should just delete it off the DVR now.

Why won't bad shows realize that they're never not going to be bad, so at least they should be insane/gory/sexy/scary/crazy to the degree that basic cable allows? Good writing is hard, but anyone can figure out how amp the sensationalistic aspects - there's really no excuse for boredom.
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Old July 24 2010, 07:48 PM   #41
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I didn't catch the last episode but this show seems really undercooked to me. Like they just put the barest elements of character and premise out there for consumption. It's like it just is.
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Old July 24 2010, 07:58 PM   #42
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Undercooked is a good term. Reminds me of SyFy's other show Painkiller Jane in that sense.
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Old July 24 2010, 08:09 PM   #43
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At this point, they desperately need a zombie attack story.
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Old July 24 2010, 09:31 PM   #44
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I've already dumped the show. I watched part of the second one just to see Mr. Gauntface(McHattie or something like that), but it was pretty lame so I did something else.
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Old July 25 2010, 07:18 PM   #45
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Oy, that was boring! This canned FOTW format is really killing the show. The only elements I give a flip about are the teeny glimpses of emerging mythology - Audrey's search for her mom, the reasons why Nathan and Duke hate each other (the fight scene was fun, even if it did also seem like a duel of bad acting), and the threat that "the troubles" might re-emerge. Fortunately I have my zapper to help get thru the rest. It's amazing how easy it is to follow the stories while fast-forwarding three quarters of it.

The fact that I can follow a story on ff proves this show is too thin (and predictable). It needs to be building up its "density" much more quickly. We need more of a sense that the town is crammed with people with nutty abilities or the potential to have nutty abilities, that might break out at any moment. They can't just be people who manifest abilities and then sail away out of the story forever.

There needs to be more threatening characters - the cat lady, the town drunk, the recluse with something nasty buried in the cellar - all of whom are supernaturally dangerous or could be. Deputy Dull should know all about those folks and be warning Audrey about them.

Duke shouldn't just be a genial smuggler, but someone who could - or who has - killed people in the past. Maybe he killed someone who in retrospect was one of those dangerous, supernatural folks, which is why local law enforcement covered it up and continues to tolerate him. If Duke felt like he was surrounded by freaks, it would either be kill to survive or scram, and he doesn't seem like the scramming sort.

Generally, the show needs to jettison the cutesy-poo approach and start building up some serious existential dread.
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