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View Poll Results: Grade "Founders Day"
5 Carters - Excellent 20 54.05%
4 Carters - Above Average 15 40.54%
2 Carters - Average 1 2.70%
2 Carters - Below Average 1 2.70%
1 Carter - Poor (Please kill off Fargo) 0 0%
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Old July 10 2010, 03:24 AM   #1
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Eureka – Founders Day (4x01) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)

Grade and discuss Eureka's 4th season premiere episode "Founders Day".


(btw, sorry about the two 2's in the poll, I don't see where you can edit the poll? )
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Old July 10 2010, 03:30 AM   #2
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Re: Eureka – Founders Day (4x01) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)

I enjoyed this episode and like how they shook things up for this season going forward. Weird hearing James Callis without his British accent.
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Old July 10 2010, 04:05 AM   #3
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Re: Eureka – Founders Day (4x01) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)

I really liked this season opener, it is rare that they change things so much about a show after a time travel escapade, that was really unique, and nice to see, very bold. It will be interesting to see how the guy from 1947 deals with 2010. I also wonder what other changes major or minor we'll see later on.
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Old July 10 2010, 04:10 AM   #4
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Re: Eureka – Founders Day (4x01) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)

Watching the repeat I noticed in the begiining that all the store fronts were closed, for rent or have going out of buisness sales, not sure how they were when they returned from 1947, have to watch that part again.
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Old July 10 2010, 04:21 AM   #5
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Re: Eureka – Founders Day (4x01) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)

Oh, also, I guess we are to assume the kid did do that bridgy thing on purpose cause he knew it would make his life, and possibly others, better. However, Jojo don't appear to be having a better life.
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Old July 10 2010, 04:24 AM   #6
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Well, it looks like 2010 is just not Eureka's year. First they have time-storms, then they have... another time thingy, and now the whole show has gone upside-downy. If Carter ever gets his memory restored, that means he'll have seen three distinct versions of the year. Henry might've seen a fourth. It's been a while since I saw the season one finale, so I don't remember if he mentioned how long it was after Kim died before he went back in time and (almost) saved her.

The premise was fun, and I wanted to read Bear's blog about this episode as soon as I heard the 40s-style opening credits arrangement. Some of the regular science was a little screwy (I'm fairly sure defibrillation doesn't work that way, but they did have Allison doing the new CPR procedure that was rolled out after it was found that the mouth-to-mouth doesn't help and you get more air into the body just doing the chest compressions. And I honestly just don't want to look up if wet magnesium actually burns hotter than dry, but that seems... suspicious), though there was one bit of science I quite liked, even if I'm fairly sure it was unintentional. Dr. Grant and his amazing wandering accent mentioned that it was easier than you'd think to launch a satellite ten years before Sputnik without anyone knowing. In point of fact, the U.S. could've put an object in orbit before Sputnik was launched, and nearly did so more than once. TPTB were nervous about the implications of launching an object into space, though, so they weighted the nose cones of their test rockets so none of them would actually achieve orbit.

Of course, there's a bit of difference between putting a lunchbox in LEO and having a solar relay in a geostationary orbit, but it's the thought that counts.

I was more than a little surprised that the Fargo-As-Terminator bit was actually in the episode. I thought that was just one of those fun bits they do for commercials, like the Mr. Rogers riff.
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Old July 10 2010, 04:27 AM   #7
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Re: Eureka – Founders Day (4x01) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)

I don't watch Eureka for the science, and would never try to make any sense of it whatsoever, I don't care if it is absolutely wrong science, I just watch it for the wacky SCIFI fun.
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Old July 10 2010, 04:32 AM   #8
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Well, yeah, I'm not talking about the time-travelling solar flares. I won't even try with that sort of thing. But you'd think they could get the real stuff right.
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Old July 10 2010, 04:35 AM   #9
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I was more than a little surprised that the Fargo-As-Terminator bit was actually in the episode. I thought that was just one of those fun bits they do for commercials, like the Mr. Rogers riff.
If he wanted to convince Jo that was real, he'd have to explain how he still had his glasses.

I wonder if Nathan could still be alive in this timeline?
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Re: Eureka – Founders Day (4x01) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)

I remember watching last season's finale, and distinctly don't remember the breakup hologram. Did I miss something (a webisode or something)?
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Old July 10 2010, 05:06 AM   #11
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That's because it was a new scene set in the time period between last season's finale and this season's opener.
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Old July 10 2010, 08:01 AM   #12
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...Some of the regular science was a little screwy (I'm fairly sure fibrillation doesn't work that way, but they did have Allison doing the new CPR procedure that was rolled out after it was found that the mouth-to-mouth doesn't help and you get more air into the body just doing the chest compressions...
Chest compressions for CPR wasn't introduced until the late 50's. The two methods of the time were either moving the arms above the victim's head or having them on their front pressing their back and moving their arms.

De-fibrillation was first demonstrated in 1947 (same year as the episode) but was only done internally until the mid 50's.
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Old July 10 2010, 08:17 AM   #13
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Wow, I didn't relize it was back already. I'll have to check it out tomorrow when I'm off work.

It's weird seeing someone other than myself starting these threads.
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Old July 10 2010, 10:54 AM   #14
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That was a quality episode, they did a really good job on the 40s Eureka, and James Callis showed once again what a versatile voice he has. I look forward to this season.
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