Primeval series 4

[arch101]

I know the Eye is that big Ferris wheel, but what's the Gherkin?

The Swiss Re Building is a modernist, bullet-shaped building in London's Financial District designed by Sir Norman Foster. Nicknamed The Gherkin because it looks like...a big Gherkin

[Christopher]

More Goose wrote:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_St_Mary_Axe

Okay, that answers what the Gherkin is, but now I'm dying to know how a street ended up being named "St Mary Axe."

Ahh, here we go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Mary_Axe

The name derives from the combination of the church dedicated to the Virgin Mary and a neighbouring tavern, which prominently displayed a sign with an axe image.

[Bob The Skutter]

Serial thread killer wrote:

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I think most TV people forget that the UK has a middle or a north.
I'm I the only person sick to death of seeing the London eye and the Gherkin in every show.

Yep, sick of seeing London. At least Being Human, Skins and Shameless are set else where. I believe the BBC have promised to start making more shows in the regions and countries where they have a presence. So Leeds, Manchester, Newcastle, Hull, Scotland and Wales at the very least are likely to see some more productions too.

Christopher I've not seen anything about the spin off or movie in months, I saw something about the Reeves-Stevens writing scripts for the spin off and Warner buying the rights to the movie but nothing since.

[lennier1]

Red Nosed Skutter wrote:

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Yep, sick of seeing London. At least Being Human, Skins and Shameless are set else where. I believe the BBC have promised to start making more shows in the regions and countries where they have a presence. So Leeds, Manchester, Newcastle, Hull, Scotland and Wales at the very least are likely to see some more productions too.

Christopher I've not seen anything about the spin off or movie in months, I saw something about the Reeves-Stevens writing scripts for the spin off and Warner buying the rights to the movie but nothing since.

What about Torchwood (Cardiff, Wales)? It's a good choice since nobody would really notice if the city was sucked into The Rift, but still ...

Why do they concentrate so much on London anyway, considering how expensive that city is?

[Bob The Skutter]

lennier1 wrote:

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What about Torchwood (Cardiff, Wales)? It's a good choice since nobody would really notice if the city was sucked into The Rift, but still ...

Why do they concentrate so much on London anyway, considering how expensive that city is?

Torchwood, yeah, I wasn't naming every show outside London otherwise Corrie and Emmerdale would be on there too.
Oh how could I forget This is England. Brilliant show and fantastic that it's not in London.

I think it's just because so much of the media is concentrated there they forget the rest of the country exists.

[Australis]

I think Jess will be OK in the long run.

Hey, quick question for you soundtrack buffs, I'm doing a quick rewatch of earlier eps, up tto s1e04, and I really like a piece of energetic guitar rock they use (when they're entering the tower block, about 3 minutes in). Anyone know what it is or where I could get it?

[Starkers]

Wamdue, I got a Fantastic Four vibe too

[captcalhoun]

well, i liked Jess and i liked both episodes.

[Sindatur]

I enojyed the return episode, I thought it was handled well. Doesn't really make sense that after a whole year surviving back there, Connor and Abby are banned from travel through the vortexes, but, I'm hoping it'll play out in good drama.

Becker seems to have stepped up a bit in his "leadership" role.

[Christopher]

Sindatur wrote:

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Doesn't really make sense that after a whole year surviving back there, Connor and Abby are banned from travel through the vortexes, but, I'm hoping it'll play out in good drama.

From another point of view, it makes perfect sense. The idea is "they've suffered enough." They've been through more than should be asked of any civilian, and they're the lucky ones, since other civilians (Nick, Steven, Sarah, and probably Danny, they assume) have died doing this work.

And there is real-world validity to that idea. In fiction, protagonists can go through horrible ordeals on a weekly basis, get injured several times a season, witness their friends and colleagues dying around them, and still be perfectly capable of functioning for five or seven years on end. In reality, people who go through ordeals like that are physically and emotionally traumatized and it would simply be cruel and dangerous to force them to continue. Real-life military personnel on hazardous duty get rotated back home before too long. Experienced or not, they aren't asked to keep risking their lives and their mental health indefinitely.

Really, after all they've endured, Abby and Connor should be allowed to retire on a government pension and get free therapy for as long as they need it. So while I'm sure the conceits of series television will lead them to get back into the game, the new policy of the ARC actually makes a great deal of sense by any realistic standard.

Becker seems to have stepped up a bit in his "leadership" role.

Well, he's the leader of the security personnel, same as last year, but Matt's the leader of the team and Becker's superior. So I'm not sure what you mean by this.

[Sindatur]

Christopher wrote:

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From another point of view, it makes perfect sense. The idea is "they've suffered enough." They've been through more than should be asked of any civilian, and they're the lucky ones, since other civilians (Nick, Steven, Sarah, and probably Danny, they assume) have died doing this work.

And there is real-world validity to that idea. In fiction, protagonists can go through horrible ordeals on a weekly basis, get injured several times a season, witness their friends and colleagues dying around them, and still be perfectly capable of functioning for five or seven years on end. In reality, people who go through ordeals like that are physically and emotionally traumatized and it would simply be cruel and dangerous to force them to continue. Real-life military personnel on hazardous duty get rotated back home before too long. Experienced or not, they aren't asked to keep risking their lives and their mental health indefinitely.

Really, after all they've endured, Abby and Connor should be allowed to retire on a government pension and get free therapy for as long as they need it. So while I'm sure the conceits of series television will lead them to get back into the game, the new policy of the ARC actually makes a great deal of sense by any realistic standard.

Well, he's the leader of the security personnel, same as last year, but Matt's the leader of the team and Becker's superior. So I'm not sure what you mean by this.

Well sure, when you put it into those kind of reality statements, it makes perfect sense, but, we've never seen that kind of realism in most TV shows

On Becker, that's why the quote marks around "Leadership", he bowed compeltely to Danny's authority, not so much, it didn't seem to Matt's Becker came off as more of a Leader in this first episode, then he did in the prior season, to me at least.

[sojourner]

OK, saw the first episode of season 4 and realized due to the recap that I must have missed some of the last episodes of season 3. Was it shown in it's entirety on BBCA?

[wamdue]

sojourner wrote:

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OK, saw the first episode of season 4 and realized due to the recap that I must have missed some of the last episodes of season 3. Was it shown in it's entirety on BBCA?

I assume so, cant see BBCAm investing in a show as much as it has in Primevel, if its not giong to show the second half of a series.

[Sindatur]

sojourner wrote:

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OK, saw the first episode of season 4 and realized due to the recap that I must have missed some of the last episodes of season 3. Was it shown in it's entirety on BBCA?

It's been a while, but, yea, I recorded onto DVD the last episode in late July 2009 from either the airing, or the next day or so on On Demand Cable. I meant to watch it before the premiere, to refresh myself, but didn't get a chance. I was surprised at how much the episode reminded me I forgot.

[Australis]

There were webisodes, and I decided to catch up with them.. They explain a bit more about what's going on.

Try this link, or they may be on YT:

http://blastr.com/2010/12/5-webisode...l-season-4.php

No answer to my soundtrack question above?

And another quick question, do we know why Doug Henshall, the guy who played Hart and Lucy Brown moved on? I know about Laila Rouass wanting to raise her children. I'm just thinking of ways they could fit in, even if for one ep to clear things up.