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Old June 28 2010, 11:04 PM   #16
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Re: How to make soccer more exciting?

I don't mind soccer at 0-0, 1-0.

Like another game at a close score line, players play better when they still have a chance to win the game.

I get bored when soccer games are 3-0 like we saw today with Brazil. Goals don't come often, so you know Brazil is going to win, it's hard to keep watching.
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Old June 28 2010, 11:37 PM   #17
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Re: How to make soccer more exciting?

First of all USA Soccer has been growing at a massive rate over the last decade so you may not like it but not try to push it on as the overall opinion. You have 300 million people in the USA its doing fine.

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Why doesn't soccer have any traction in the United States as a spectator sport? Frankly, it's because we think it's BORING
NFL = Stop/Start ----- Baseball = Plain Stop

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The games can last for 3 friggin' hours without anyone scoring anything!
3 hours WTF are you on about. Even with Extra time a game lasts no more than 2 hours and then you get the drama of a penalty shootout no draws where extra time and a shootout is the best drama on the planet from any sport. Otherwise 90 minutes not 3 hours.

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whereas a soccer game with 8 goals is one for the record books!
Typical American narrow view, football is not just about goals its all an art. Great defending and goalkeeping is great to watch and I've seen some thrilling 0-0 draws and lame 3-3 games.

If numbers made great drama then Cricket would be the most popular sport on the planet.[/QUOTE]


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Personally, the 1st thing I'd change is get rid of some of the offsides rules. Recently, I was watching a PBS documentary about one of the FIFA club championships games. Liverpool seemed to score a couple of goals but were suddenly declared offsides. It seems like these kinds of rules prevent teams from being more aggressive in attacking the goal. Eliminate these rules and you'll start seeing the soccer equivalent of basketball's "fastbreak." I mean, each team already has a goalie. That doesn't make it hard enough?
Offside rule is there to stop goal hanging, which requires little skill. The aim of the game is to be faster than your opponent and much smarter. You would think a country that adores NFL with all its plays and tactics would get that.

Fastbreak you don't watch football FFS Arsenal, Barcelona, Man Utd, Spain, Brazil are the fucking masters of a fast counter attack.

you don't get football and its a joke how some people in America want changes because they feel its boring. Well guess what mroe people in the world dislike your sport than football or as you call it Soccer so why don't you change the NFL and Baseball.

btw I actually don't mind NFL I just can't stand stuff like what I just had to read.
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Old June 29 2010, 01:58 AM   #18
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Re: How to make soccer more exciting?

Football is exciting. It doesn't need anything.

(Well, I'm starting to think that electronic goal sensors and some kind of video-replays to aid the referee in case of close calls could be nice, but that's about it. The last time they tried to change the rules it was the Golden Goal and that was terrible.)
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Old June 29 2010, 03:47 AM   #19
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Re: How to make soccer more exciting?

BTW, don't group all Americans into one group. I'm not one to radically change the game or bitch about ties. I would like to discourage defense-heavy formations and encourage more counterattacks, however.
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Old June 29 2010, 04:25 AM   #20
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Re: How to make soccer more exciting?

I'm not a big fan, but I would probably watch more if there was

1. A clear winner at the end of the game. I would hate spend money and go watch a sport for a couple of hours and come home without a win. It would seem like a waste of money. We had shootouts and free kicks when I played little league.

2. Get rid of the stoppage time. If someone is hurt, stop the clock. Give the other team so many seconds to throw the ball back into play from the sideline, etc.

3. More TV coverage. I don't know if any team has a local market that shows all the games. I have no interest in tuning in one week to see the Seattle Sounders play, and then tuning in two weeks later to see the LA Galaxy play on ESPN. This is why I could never really get into Arena Football .The game of the week isn't exciting if you're not a huge fan of the sport. It's hard for me to get excited about the World Cup every four years.

I realize it's not going to happen though.... so I'll stick with my baseball and American football.
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Old June 29 2010, 01:10 PM   #21
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Re: How to make soccer more exciting?

Get rid of stoppage time? No way! Stoppage time is brilliant for drama! Was there too little? Too much? Nothing spells drama like a winning or equalising goal being scored in 90+4 (or +8 if it's Man United at Old Trafford)!

I used to think they should stop the clock, as in rugby union, as well. But really, it's not as exciting at all.
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Old June 29 2010, 02:42 PM   #22
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Re: How to make soccer more exciting?

The Borgified Corpse wrote: View Post
Why doesn't soccer have any traction in the United States as a spectator sport? Frankly, it's because we think it's BORING. The games can last for 3 friggin' hours without anyone scoring anything! Granted, baseball can be pretty low scoring sometimes too. But still, when a baseball team scores 8 runs in one game, it's a pretty regular occurence, whereas a soccer game with 8 goals is one for the record books!
That doesn't seem the likely explanation, since football (US: soccer) is the most popular sport in the rest of the world. Does the rest of the world particularly love sports that they find boring? Eh, I don't think so.

It also doesn't explain why Americans love baseball, which is 10 times more boring than football/soccer.
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Old June 29 2010, 02:52 PM   #23
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Re: How to make soccer more exciting?

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I would like to discourage defense-heavy formations and encourage more counterattacks, however.
This doesn't make much sense. The team with more counterattacks usually plays a defense-heavy formation.
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Old June 29 2010, 03:36 PM   #24
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Get rid of stoppage time? No way! Stoppage time is brilliant for drama!
1999 Champions League Final...

Man Utd come from 1-0 down to win 2-1 with 2 goals in stoppage time or Stevie Gerrard 30 yard volley in stoppage time of the 2006 FA Cup Final.

Great drama.
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Old June 29 2010, 03:40 PM   #25
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Re: How to make soccer more exciting?

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1. A clear winner at the end of the game. I would hate spend money and go watch a sport for a couple of hours and come home without a win. It would seem like a waste of money. We had shootouts and free kicks when I played little league.

2. Get rid of the stoppage time. If someone is hurt, stop the clock. Give the other team so many seconds to throw the ball back into play from the sideline, etc.
I have to agree with these two. I hate ties. I can handle a loss, but ties are just frustrating in my book. As for the clock, I'd much prefer a count down clock, with time out for injuries, etc. But yeah, I don't see it happening.

As for the criticisms about American football taking forever to do anything, blame that on the TV broadcasters. When I was in college, a 2.5 to 3 hour game was easily stretched to 4 hours if it was televised. The TV timeouts really ticked us off, and killed the pace of the game. Want a really fast-paced game? Go watch a high school game or a smaller college.
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Old June 29 2010, 03:49 PM   #26
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Want a really fast-paced game? Go watch a high school game or a smaller college.
LOL Yeah, glorified sports day events are where it's at. I'm going to nip down to my local High School to watch the sack race.
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Old June 29 2010, 04:05 PM   #27
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It's true that a non-televised American football game doesn't take anywhere near 4 hours though.
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Old June 29 2010, 07:43 PM   #28
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Re: How to make soccer more exciting?

I really, really don't understand the discontent with ties. Frustration is part of sport. Sometimes a big team is held to an implausible draw - that's an achievement for a smaller team. Sometimes neither team can prove itself better. Sometimes there's a dramatic late equaliser.

On the flip side I don't have a problem with sports that don't allow drawn games. I just can't believe it's a problem in a league system.
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Old June 29 2010, 08:00 PM   #29
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Last night, Letterman suggested that the vuvuzela shows even the fans in attendance need something to occupy themselves because the game is so boring.
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Old June 29 2010, 08:08 PM   #30
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Re: How to make soccer more exciting?

To be honest.. just because it's not very popular in the US the world needs to change the rules to make it more appealing to americans?

It may be a new concept for some but the world doesn't solely revolve around the US. American football is near unheard of in some parts of the world whereas football is played all around.

How about you change some American football rules to make it more exciting for us Europeans?
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