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Old August 14 2012, 04:17 PM   #91
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Re: Is a Hollywood liberal conspiracy keeping 'Red Dawn' from release?

^ I don't think anyone is saying that China 'loves' America. But they're not stupid and don't want a war with the only other superpower in the world. Especially not as the world economic system, as it currently stands, works very well for them.
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Old August 14 2012, 06:51 PM   #92
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China just bought an aircraft carrier from Russia. I'm pretty sure they'd be willing to buy transport ships and planes to go with it.
They want to prtect themselves from aptential US or Russian attack, nothing wrong with that.

Nothing. The same nothing that would stop the Chinese governement from retreating to emergency shelters before the weapons hit and launching the campaign anyway.
They are far to rational to risk nuclear war. Crazy Kim did not start one, don't worry.
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Old August 14 2012, 07:32 PM   #93
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Actually, given that the US's biggest ties with China involve us owing them money I can see a plausible scenario of china calling in its loans, The US defaulting, and China exacting a penalty in the form of demanding (or conquering) American territory in compensation or demanding American compliance as they take Taiwan back by force and make moves to dominate the Pacific Rim.
China cannot "call in its loans". There are specific contracts and schedules attached to all the money loaned between nations. Do you really think governments would enter into agreements to borrow if their creditors could just call in their debts whenever they fancied?

International economics is not like lending your mate a tenner.
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Old August 14 2012, 08:17 PM   #94
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But the leftists keep telling me China and the US are best buds now, so whatever...
The "leftists" do nothing of the sort, but keep living in your imaginary world.

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Old August 14 2012, 08:38 PM   #95
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Re: Is a Hollywood liberal conspiracy keeping 'Red Dawn' from release?

The trailer is up on the web...



to be honest, it actually looks like an entertaining, overly patriotic, America Fuck Ya, movie with a totally out there story necessitated by the need of having a plot where some nation invades the US so the normal people can go all "america, Fuck ya!" on them...

Just like the first one.

I'll go see it, but I'm a sucker for "America, Fuck Ya!" movies, so...
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Old August 14 2012, 08:46 PM   #96
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It's got post pub classic written all over it hasn't it? Thor leading a bunch of kids to a Cabin in the Woods is going to lead to a load of youtube mash up videos as well.
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Old August 14 2012, 08:48 PM   #97
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I wonder if that one will appeal to the young'uns like Hunger Games.

The trailer had me thinking back to that time a few years back when the power grid went out in the midwest. That was definitely unsettling, with no radio, TV, internet, phones, etc. there was no way to really no what was happening.
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Old August 15 2012, 10:35 PM   #98
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Yeah, everybody was wondering if it was a terrorist thing, and it turns out that a squirell chewed through a line somewhere in Ohio.
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Old August 15 2012, 11:32 PM   #99
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Reading over the last couple pages, I am struck by how many people are so naive about how the world works. (There are exceptions, which stand out like the sun in the sky, of course.) I mean, China bought an aircraft carrier? So what? You realize how many anti-missile cruisers they would need to realistically defend it? And the odds of it surviving a serious attack anyway, cruisers be damned?

The leftists say China and America are best buds? Who are these leftists, and where are they saying this? Certainly not in the Security Council, where China opposes anything the US wants that doesn't directly benefit China, even when they have no real interest in the topic at hand.

As for North Korea-I don't think they could nuke Japan without an invitation given their technological level. Neither country, NK or Chi, could invade-just as we couldn't invade them. It took the equivalent logistically of moving the entire city of Jacksonville Fla to stage the first Desert Storm-and that was to push an invader out of little ole Kuwait.

As for the world economy-none of the advanced nations have an interest in destroying any other one. The interlocking finances, as pointed out, would make such an idea ludicrous. I don't think any advanced nation today is 100% self-sufficient. We all need each other.
That said-this movie has lots of explosions and stuff. Should be fun.
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