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Old June 23 2010, 05:16 AM   #46
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Re: Is a Hollywood liberal conspiracy keeping 'Red Dawn' from release?

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or that News Corporation buys MGM (they already own the video distribution rights to MGM/UA movies & TV shows as it is.)
So can we at least hope that the rest of the existing Bond films make it to Blu-Ray?
Yes, if such a buyout happens.
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Old June 23 2010, 07:13 AM   #47
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310 million people mister. :-p
If ever there was an advertisment for the male pill.

Plus why would China invade us? We buy all their shit, if they invaded us they would destroy their market.
They'd invade you because, apparently, they like the idea of millions of their troops seeing what the bottom of the ocean looks like.
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Old June 23 2010, 07:40 AM   #48
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Re: Is a Hollywood liberal conspiracy keeping 'Red Dawn' from release?

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Does either film explain exactly how these invasion forces get past our military? If enemy nations tried to send a fleet to attack IRL, we'd intercept them long before they get here.
Soviet forces use military transports flagged as commercial birds to come in undetected, just like tehy did in Afghanistan. Mexico had undergone a revolution, while Cuba and Nicaragua had a million troops each. Cuban and Nicaraguan troops, came up through Texas from Mexico. They used tactical nukes on NORAD, SAC and other command posts, but it was mostly conventional.
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Old June 23 2010, 08:00 AM   #49
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Re: Is a Hollywood liberal conspiracy keeping 'Red Dawn' from release?

Well if Red Dawn is never released you can just watch the upcoming Australian movie Tomorrow, When the War Began... based on a series of books written in the 90s which the author pretty much just copies Red Dawn, but moves it to Australia.
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Old June 23 2010, 11:33 AM   #50
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Well if Red Dawn is never released you can just watch the upcoming Australian movie Tomorrow, When the War Began... based on a series of books written in the 90s which the author pretty much just copies Red Dawn, but moves it to Australia.
I remember reading those books in school as they were released, great stuff. I wound up reading volumes #2-6 (of 7) which is kinda messed up. The Third Day, the Frost and Darkness be my Friend are still some of my favourite titles for books, period.

I've been thinking about picking the series up again; as I understand it the author has since done a trilogy about Ellie's life 'back in the world'. Didn't know about the film, but if it's an Australian production I'm sure it'll fail horribly. And in any case a miniseries would be more appropriate.

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Old June 23 2010, 02:22 PM   #51
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Re: Is a Hollywood liberal conspiracy keeping 'Red Dawn' from release?

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MGM is simply broke. They can't even afford to make a new James Bond movie.
That's a convenient excuse, innit? We can't afford to piss off the Chinese, so we'll do whatever they say - and invent excuses for why we're doing it.
Why look for a sinister conspiracy theory when there's a much simpler explanation at hand?
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Old June 23 2010, 02:45 PM   #52
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Re: Is a Hollywood liberal conspiracy keeping 'Red Dawn' from release?

I'm just going to say yes because I don't really care.
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Old June 23 2010, 03:54 PM   #53
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Re: Is a Hollywood liberal conspiracy keeping 'Red Dawn' from release?

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MGM is simply broke. They can't even afford to make a new James Bond movie.
That's a convenient excuse, innit? We can't afford to piss off the Chinese, so we'll do whatever they say - and invent excuses for why we're doing it.
Why look for a sinister conspiracy theory when there's a much simpler explanation at hand?
Because that's nearly not as fun!
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Old June 23 2010, 09:14 PM   #54
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Funny how the build-up of the 80's eventually led to the downfall of the Soviet Union and ended the Cold War.
It would be funny. If that was really what happened.
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Old June 23 2010, 09:28 PM   #55
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Re: Is a Hollywood liberal conspiracy keeping 'Red Dawn' from release?

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MGM is simply broke. They can't even afford to make a new James Bond movie.
That's a convenient excuse, innit? We can't afford to piss off the Chinese, so we'll do whatever they say - and invent excuses for why we're doing it.
Why look for a sinister conspiracy theory when there's a much simpler explanation at hand?
Blame the New World Order and the Build-A-Burger Chain of fast food resturaunts.
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Old June 23 2010, 09:37 PM   #56
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Re: Is a Hollywood liberal conspiracy keeping 'Red Dawn' from release?

Between MGM's financial difficulties and the fear that an anti-Soviet fantasy would flop because there haven't been any Soviets around in the lifetime of the largest moviegoing age cohort, there's no mystery for a conspiracy theory to explain. Cpmmies as enemies doesn't work anymore even for Iron Man. In fact, it didn't even do too well in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull in a period setting.

The terms "liberal" and "left-wing" are not synonyms. Using them as if they were is merely rightwing propaganda.

The rule of thumb definition of "rich" is supposed to be, one million dollars a year income. Only a relative handful of movie and television celebrities are rich by any sane standard. Anyone who puts, say, Matt Damon in the same category as Carlos Slim needs his head examined.

Further, celebrities do not necessarily have a platform to be influential from. Even someone as well known as Kevin Costner couldn't automatically command an audience. The handful of celebrities who are geniunely rich and also command ready access to the media at large (the tabloids are not enough, not yet,) are a mere handful. The likes of Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck and such versus the likes of Oprah, Ellen and Howard Stern. Anyone who turns that into "right" versus "left" is misusing the words.

Last and least, if Christopher Nolan claims Batman Begins and Dark Knight are liberal films, or even just not "conservative," he must be using a definition of "conservative" which means that all conservatives must enthusiastically approve of a vigilante murdering criminals, and any reservations at all makes you a commie sympathizer. This lack of sophistication would explain a lot about why the movies are so bad.
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Old June 23 2010, 09:40 PM   #57
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Plus why would China invade us?
They wouldn't. At least, not with a conventional army. They'd just poison us with lead toys and toothpaste.
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Old June 23 2010, 11:28 PM   #58
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Re: Is a Hollywood liberal conspiracy keeping 'Red Dawn' from release?

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Does either film explain exactly how these invasion forces get past our military? If enemy nations tried to send a fleet to attack IRL, we'd intercept them long before they get here.
They used tactical nukes on NORAD, SAC and other command posts
Aren't those shielded against nukes? AFAIK, NORAD is so far underground that a nuke couldn't get to it.
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Old June 24 2010, 01:16 AM   #59
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Re: Is a Hollywood liberal conspiracy keeping 'Red Dawn' from release?

I will say the lastest Bond film seems to imply that global warming's a hoax.

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Old June 24 2010, 06:24 AM   #60
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Re: Is a Hollywood liberal conspiracy keeping 'Red Dawn' from release?

What's hilarious is that article quotes an admitted conservative blogger who provides no evidence to support his claim. Why it got the title is a mystery to me.

And yes, MGM is completely screwed. The fact that they have a film basically ready to release, but can't even fund DISTRIBUTION of it tells you everything you need to know. It's hard for me to believe they can still pay the bills if things are that bad.
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