The flaws of Ezri Dax

Evil Ezri · November 18 2009, 05:38 AM

Was it the character flaws of Ezri Dax because of the writers, or, was it the woman herself that produced flaws about her character. If it is about her flaws because she was unsecure about herself then that is the flaw of the writers. If it was the flaws about herself, as she was short as a woman at 5’ 5” tall when the rest of the cast members were taller except for Quark and Ron.

Sure, Ezri Dax could have been more secure about herself and be much taller. Then, would she not really be a copy of Jadzia Dax.

Admiral Shran · November 18 2009, 06:39 AM

What flaws are you talking about? If it's just that she was short, how is that a flaw at all?

I loved Ezri. In my opinion she was much better than Jadzia. The fact that she was unsure about herself and emotionally vulnerable is what made her such a great character. How often do we see a character like that on Star Trek when those traits aren't played for laughs?

happydave · November 18 2009, 07:40 AM

Evil Ezri wrote:

If it is about her flaws because she was unsecure about herself

This isn't really a flaw as it's one of the most endearing qualities about her and the best story thread she had.

JoeFromEarth · November 18 2009, 08:17 AM

The only "flaw" I can think of is she didn't have as much time to develop her character...

Evil Ezri · November 18 2009, 12:08 PM

Admiral Shran wrote:

What flaws are you talking about? If it's just that she was short, how is that a flaw at all?

I loved Ezri. In my opinion she was much better than Jadzia. The fact that she was unsure about herself and emotionally vulnerable is what made her such a great character. How often do we see a character like that on Star Trek when those traits aren't played for laughs?

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Jono · November 18 2009, 01:47 PM

An actor can only do so much with the material they were given. She was written as a whiny, annoying, vacant character. Some found her endearing I did not.

I'm of the opinion that it was a mistake to add her as a full time character back into the show for the last season and that they could have dealt with her Trillness and old feelings in two or three episode arc if they wanted to bring back Dax.

Evil Ezri · November 18 2009, 02:37 PM

Jono wrote:

An actor can only do so much with the material they were given. She was written as a whiny, annoying, vacant character. Some found her endearing I did not.

I'm of the opinion that it was a mistake to add her as a full time character back into the show for the last season and that they could have dealt with her Trillness and old feelings in two or three episode arc if they wanted to bring back Dax.

Do understand your point. It was a rush to develop the character of Ezri Dax in a single season and I feel it did not really work. Just thinking about it, I feel the reason that Ezri Dax became so important to have her character developed as everyone that started the series was only thinking that Deep Space 9 would last only six seasons and not seven. The other reason, Jadzia Dax was the center of attention during the first six seasons. Sisko was first, then Jadzia and Kira shared the number two position with Odo and Basher the third tear of the series.

Admiral Shran · November 18 2009, 04:03 PM

Jono wrote:

Some found her endearing I did not.

Count me as one who found her endearing. I especially liked how she was the polar opposite of Jadzia. She was shaky, nervous, and emotionally unsure; whereas Jadzia came off quite often as arrogant, supremely self-absorbed, and at times downright rude.

I think it's fair to say that I'm no fan of Jadzia Dax.

Fencer · November 19 2009, 04:03 AM

Evil Ezri wrote:

WIf it was the flaws about herself, as she was short as a woman at 5’ 5” tall when the rest of the cast members were taller except for Quark and Ron.

What the hell does Nicole's height got to do with any flaws in the character Ezri Dax?

Evil Ezri · November 19 2009, 04:11 AM

Fencer wrote:

Evil Ezri wrote:

WIf it was the flaws about herself, as she was short as a woman at 5’ 5” tall when the rest of the cast members were taller except for Quark and Ron.

What the hell does Nicole's height got to do with any flaws in the character Ezri Dax?

Have no problem that she is 5'5". Just that the majority of the characters of Deep Space 9 were taller then her. Think everyone was looking for someone like Jadzia Dax that was almost 6'0" and large busted.

Mysterion · November 19 2009, 04:21 AM

I liked Ezri, and liked that the writers wrote her as a less than perfect, if not flawed person. I like the you could have those sorts of characters on DSN. I'm sure that if Ezri had shown up on TNG, they would have had her fixed or cured in about two episodes and she would have been just as boring as the rest of those people.

And it didn't hurt that Nicloe Deboer is very cute, either.

Kestrel · November 19 2009, 04:30 AM

Love Ezri. Also love Jadzia. I think the difference between them helps, like others have said.

BTW, if you'd like to see Ezri grow more comfortable in her skin, I highly recommend Pocket's DS9 Relaunch.

Fist McStrongpunch · November 19 2009, 04:30 AM

Flaws? The woman is a goddess.

The Grim Ghost · November 19 2009, 04:50 AM

5'5 is not short for a woman. It is quite average.

As for her other flaws, though she was never a favorite of mine I kind of like them. Made her seem more human than Jadzia ever did (yes I know they are Trill)

If you want to see how incredibly smug and annoying an Ezri with NO flaws is, read some of her more recent Trek novels. She is now the Mary Sue of the galaxy who can do no wrong, no matter who writes her. Very stupid and annoying.

Klaitu · November 19 2009, 04:55 AM

The last time I talked about Ezri Dax, I called her the female version of Mr. Mackey because of her giant head and tiny body. There was much consternation on the internet.

This time I will just say that I liked Jadzia a lot better.

November 18 2009, 05:38 AM	#1
Evil Ezri Lieutenant Location: East Tennessee	The flaws of Ezri Dax Was it the character flaws of Ezri Dax because of the writers, or, was it the woman herself that produced flaws about her character. If it is about her flaws because she was unsecure about herself then that is the flaw of the writers. If it was the flaws about herself, as she was short as a woman at 5’ 5” tall when the rest of the cast members were taller except for Quark and Ron. Sure, Ezri Dax could have been more secure about herself and be much taller. Then, would she not really be a copy of Jadzia Dax.

November 18 2009, 06:39 AM	#2
Admiral Shran Admiral Location: In the Before Time - the Long, Long Ago	Re: The flaws of Ezri Dax What flaws are you talking about? If it's just that she was short, how is that a flaw at all? I loved Ezri. In my opinion she was much better than Jadzia. The fact that she was unsure about herself and emotionally vulnerable is what made her such a great character. How often do we see a character like that on Star Trek when those traits aren't played for laughs?

November 18 2009, 08:17 AM	#4
JoeFromEarth Lieutenant Commander Location: Dayton, OH	Re: The flaws of Ezri Dax The only "flaw" I can think of is she didn't have as much time to develop her character... __________________ --> my blog --> my brother's

November 18 2009, 01:47 PM	#6
Jono Rear Admiral Location: Australia	Re: The flaws of Ezri Dax An actor can only do so much with the material they were given. She was written as a whiny, annoying, vacant character. Some found her endearing I did not. I'm of the opinion that it was a mistake to add her as a full time character back into the show for the last season and that they could have dealt with her Trillness and old feelings in two or three episode arc if they wanted to bring back Dax. __________________ Those who lose dreaming are lost.

November 19 2009, 04:21 AM	#11
Mysterion Rear Admiral Location: Avoiding Commander Gampu	Re: The flaws of Ezri Dax I liked Ezri, and liked that the writers wrote her as a less than perfect, if not flawed person. I like the you could have those sorts of characters on DSN. I'm sure that if Ezri had shown up on TNG, they would have had her fixed or cured in about two episodes and she would have been just as boring as the rest of those people. And it didn't hurt that Nicloe Deboer is very cute, either. __________________ Welcome to Man's most magnificent achievement in the conquest of space, the man-made planetoid SPACE ACADEMY, founded in the Star Year 3732...

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November 19 2009, 04:30 AM	#12
Kestrel Rear Admiral Location: East Tennessee	Re: The flaws of Ezri Dax Love Ezri. Also love Jadzia. I think the difference between them helps, like others have said. BTW, if you'd like to see Ezri grow more comfortable in her skin, I highly recommend Pocket's DS9 Relaunch. __________________ "Does it ever get easy?" "You mean life?" "Yeah. Does it get easy?" "What do you want me to say?" "Lie to me."

November 19 2009, 04:30 AM	#13
Fist McStrongpunch Rear Admiral Location: Milwaukeeish	Re: The flaws of Ezri Dax Flaws? The woman is a goddess. __________________ You all laugh when I look at boxes and talk about robot costumes. Robots, my friends, are no laughing matter.

November 19 2009, 04:50 AM	#14
The Grim Ghost Fleet Captain Location: Thee Olde Spook Shack	Re: The flaws of Ezri Dax 5'5 is not short for a woman. It is quite average. As for her other flaws, though she was never a favorite of mine I kind of like them. Made her seem more human than Jadzia ever did (yes I know they are Trill) If you want to see how incredibly smug and annoying an Ezri with NO flaws is, read some of her more recent Trek novels. She is now the Mary Sue of the galaxy who can do no wrong, no matter who writes her. Very stupid and annoying. __________________ Life looks better in black and white.

November 19 2009, 04:55 AM	#15
Klaitu Commodore Location: The 1980's	Re: The flaws of Ezri Dax The last time I talked about Ezri Dax, I called her the female version of Mr. Mackey because of her giant head and tiny body. There was much consternation on the internet. This time I will just say that I liked Jadzia a lot better. __________________ Klaitu, King of the Nerds, Lord of Abandonware, Swashbuckling Space-Hero.