Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers)

[Admiral_Young]

^ I actually agree with this and would extend that idea to all Marvel's core books. There is just WAY too many books right now that don't really have anything to do with the other in my opinion. I understand the need for giving creative teams work. I'd just much rather enjoy a more condensed and cohesive universe. The X-Men universe for instance is just way too big for me to enjoy. I don't even know what the main flagship book is considered right now.

[Turtletrekker]

Of course, the reason there are so many Avengers titles right now is simple: merchandise to be collected in TP just in time for for the movie blitz.

Personally, I'm enjoying ALL of the Avengers titles that I'm reading (the core four and Crusade). They all bring something different to the table, so it doesn't feel as if I'm reading the same book four times a month.

[Admiral_Young]

Once again Bendis's main Avengers title feels disjointed and incomplete to me. Every issue attempts to be "epic" but that doesn't really come across in my opinion. John Romita Jr. art is starting to bother me on the book as well. It doesn't work either and feels too grimy and borderline ugly. Spider-Woman looks ugly and Jessica is not an ugly woman. Everything looks blocky...I'm a fan of John Jr too, I just don't feel like his art is working on this book.

Secret Avengers was fun. Interesting wrap up to the Shadow Council storyline.

[Admiral_Young]

Interview with new "Secret Avengers" writer Nick Spencer who is taking over from Brubaker. Interesting to see what he will do with the book.

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/secr...er-110225.html

[Mr Light]

I haven't cared for Secret Avengers so I'll be interested to see a new writer's on it. Hopefully it'll be a better storyline than the Serpent Crown or Shang Chi's evil father

[DarthPipes]

I've quit Secret Avengers. Just not that interested. Regular Avengers is just garbage to me.

[Admiral_Young]

Okay I'm officially dropping "Avengers" and won't probably pick it up until the line up change happens that Bendis has talked about. The most interesting thing about these books is the prose history of Avengers back-up story. It's obvious that Bendis intention was to make each issue like a movie but it just doesn't work. I can't stand John Jr's bulky art in this book either. The characters look ugly as all hell! Wasted promise in my opinion and poor execution. This has to be the first time where I'm extremely disappointed in a Bendis work.

[Mr Light]

I haven't bothered to read those prose things, they're actually worth reading?

This latest issue of Avengers was a total rip off. It was what 22 pages of full frame splash pages with basically no story whatsoever? For $4?

I usually love JRJR art but when he's rushed the quality noticeably dips. And these recent issues look rushed.

[Admiral_Young]

^ Agreed, and yes the prose history is fun! All the characters are in character and reminiscing about old times. I think they were talking about Wanda and Vision's romance last issue. Haven't read the installment this issue.

[Hound of UIster]

Just goes to show how integral Joe Q was in the editorial side of the Marvel Universe. He steps down as EIC and the entire Avengers franchise goes to shit.

[Icemizer]

The prose stuff just shows Bendis is a great writer...just not of comic books.

[Admiral_Young]

As an editor I never had much of a problem with him, just his creative decisions as editor are what bugged me. I guess Axel is still trying to get a handle on things.

[DarthPipes]

For a flagship title, Avengers sets the bar low and fails to exceed it. It's a comic that thinks its better than it really is.

[Admiral_Young]

^ Agreed. It needs an artist change and an actual direction in place from the writer. Bendis seems to be going all over the place. We started with the intriguing future story line which never really went any way and was a big tease, then this Infinity Gauntlet story line with Red Hulk (I like Ross's inclusion on the team btw). Just ugh.

[Guy Gardener]

I'm getting all these flash backs to how cool I THOUGHT the original Infinity Gauntlet Miniseries was (rather than how cool it really was.).

But Thor has the Time Gem.

When the fuck is he going to figure out he should be attacking Parker a week ago?

Dufus has trouble thinking fourth dimensionally.

It used to be his hammer could take him through time before the power was stripped of him.