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Old August 23 2012, 12:38 AM   #1156
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Logan's past has been retconned again in "Wolverine" (a book that I've ignored for several years now because I look at it as being pretty much self-contained). Apparently according to this...the Weapon X project was Logan's idea.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/08/...turn-away-now/
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Old August 23 2012, 12:40 AM   #1157
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Being his idea is a bit stupid at face value is it not?
A lot, if not most of his rage was at being used, betrayed and placed into the Weapon X project. He may indeed have that inner berserker anyway but that was always good reason and motivation for that chip on his shoulder.
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Old August 23 2012, 12:42 AM   #1158
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Pretty much why I've ignored the book...aside from Daken, most of which has been introduced in this book has been stupid in my opinion, and I don't think much of Daken either.
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Old August 23 2012, 12:54 AM   #1159
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Well there are side effects to most human testing.

Although, he got all his memories back in House of M.

WHAM.

No Amnesia.

but he's living the wrong life.

Then he's zapped by Layla Miller and he's got his old life back, and his new life and still no amnesia.

Nothing should be a surprise to him any more.

Although he's still laconic.

Yes, I too have been avoiding Wolverine for years.

Thing, is with a classical privileged 19th century education, he's probably pretty damn qualified to be the headmaster of a school, then of course if he just taught languages he'd be fine, not that the telepaths just don't down load language packets into poeples heads making his decades of accidentally learning shit redundant.
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Old August 23 2012, 02:13 AM   #1160
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I'm actually enjoying Iron Man for the first time since Dark Reign, the story is actually going somewhere big.
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Old August 23 2012, 05:13 AM   #1161
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I like it too.
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Old August 23 2012, 06:28 AM   #1162
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DarthPipes wrote: View Post
If Remender's gone from X-Force, I'm done reading it.

Although if Remender is going to inject his politics into Uncanny Avengers, I can't say I'm too thrilled about that either.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=40469
What politics would that be? I'm not seeing any in Remender's comments. He talks about the team. The relationship between the members. And the villain's motivations and plans.
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Old August 23 2012, 06:54 AM   #1163
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Logan's past has been retconned again in "Wolverine" (a book that I've ignored for several years now because I look at it as being pretty much self-contained). Apparently according to this...the Weapon X project was Logan's idea.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/08/...turn-away-now/
The comic is by Loeb. Expect it to be retconned immediately afterwards.
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Old August 23 2012, 10:51 AM   #1164
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Sigh. Wolverine was so much cooler when his past was mysterious.
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Old August 23 2012, 12:35 PM   #1165
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The only Marvel read for me this week was Punisher #14.
I'm going to miss Rucka's take on Punisher but with the War Zone mini that's still 8 months away.
I'll be very curious what team concept they are going to place Frank onto and what circumstances lead to him "agreeing" to it.
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Old August 23 2012, 01:12 PM   #1166
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Sigh. Wolverine was so much cooler when his past was mysterious.
Not really. It was just that Daniel Way never bothered to take full advantage of the story telling opportunities presented when Wolverine suddenly regained his memories in HoM. Instead of one hundred years of Wolverine adventures, we got Daken.
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Old August 23 2012, 08:32 PM   #1167
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Being his idea is a bit stupid at face value is it not?
A lot, if not most of his rage was at being used, betrayed and placed into the Weapon X project. He may indeed have that inner berserker anyway but that was always good reason and motivation for that chip on his shoulder.
It has the potential to make him the greatest self-absorbed monster on the planet, punishing the world for something he himself did.

And I actually liked Daken - maybe one of the only two decent ideas Marvel has introduced in the last decade, the other being Winter Soldier/Bucky as Cap.
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Old August 24 2012, 01:27 AM   #1168
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Matt Fraction talks about his Fantastic Four plans.

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/marv...c-four-ff.html

He's gonna be on a thin leash with me. Succeeding Hickman is going to be extremely tough.
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Old August 24 2012, 01:43 AM   #1169
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Agreed. Hickman has been amazing. I'd love to see him return to S.H.I.E.L.D.
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Old August 24 2012, 02:04 AM   #1170
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S.H.I.E.L.D. is still ongoing...he's just been busy with other things lately.
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