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Old May 23 2014, 01:14 PM   #3691
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Re: Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers)

JD I posted that a few days ago in the thread.


The official presser states that Marvel is getting ready to do something they've never done in their 75 year history. Which of course has furthered the speculation about a reboot.

Tom Brevoort has been steadfast in his denials that they're not going to reboot their continuity.

The fact is though that whatever they've been planning since their big creative summit which kickstarted Marvel Now has been leading to something huge. Each of these "events" are a little piece of the bigger puzzle.
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Old May 23 2014, 04:42 PM   #3692
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^Original Sin and Infinity reported are all bookends for Hickman's Avengers/New Avengers.

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Currently Marvel is doing terribly editorially. Both Waid and Ellis are off Hulk and Moon Knight at #5 and #6 respectively. And Gillen will be off Iron Man soon. I suspect Remender will follow on Cap. I could definitely see them resorting to a temporary reboot ala Heroes Reborn.
It's 4:40AM PST where I am right now, so I'm not going to dig up the links, but Waid is leaving Hulk so he can get further ahead on Daredevil (He also said to be involved in some capacity with the DD TV show), Gillen is leaving Iron Man for another, bigger, Marvel project, and Moon Knight is simply ending due to sales (What? Moon Knight isn't selling well? No!).
But Moon Knight is selling very well. If MK is cancelled why aren't the new X-Force, Loki, Black Widow, Silver Surfer, Hulk, Wolverine, Ms. Marvel, Ghost Rider or Fantastic Four titles not cancelled then because MK is selling well above most of these recent relaunch titles. Perhaps you should come up with a better explanation not dependent on sales because it's clearly not the explanation unless you believe Marvel now wants to punish success.

As for Iron Man I'll just point out Marvel was hyping it up to be the equivalent of Moore's run on Swamp Thing. His exit is very much admitting the critical failure of his run.
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Old May 23 2014, 05:08 PM   #3693
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Re: Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers)

^ Yep they are...but they're also part of the larger picture which is why Age of Ultron was retooled as it was i.e. broken time, etc.

"Time Runs Out" is no doubt part of this as well as the end of Hickman's "Avengers" run.
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Old May 23 2014, 05:09 PM   #3694
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Currently Marvel is doing terribly editorially. Both Waid and Ellis are off Hulk and Moon Knight at #5 and #6 respectively. And Gillen will be off Iron Man soon. I suspect Remender will follow on Cap. I could definitely see them resorting to a temporary reboot ala Heroes Reborn.
It's 4:40AM PST where I am right now, so I'm not going to dig up the links, but Waid is leaving Hulk so he can get further ahead on Daredevil (He also said to be involved in some capacity with the DD TV show), Gillen is leaving Iron Man for another, bigger, Marvel project, and Moon Knight is simply ending due to sales (What? Moon Knight isn't selling well? No!).
What? Three issues in they barely have any sales data at all. Is this true? Also, wasn't Ellis original PR release that he'd be on the book for a year?

I flipped through Original Sin #2(not buying it) and the last page shows
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Old May 23 2014, 05:14 PM   #3695
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1) Ellis's departure is undoubtedly not due to sales. Sales is just the convenient explanation Marvel has latched on. But the sales for MK are very good better than most of the launched titles in the recent 2-5 month window. It outsells the newest volume of Wolverine.

2) The character you mentioned is reported to be Aaron's favorite villain.
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Old May 23 2014, 07:27 PM   #3696
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I guess everyone has a favorite. He is visually cool and if boosts him up a bit all the better I suppose.

I couldn't find any link that explicitly said MK is cancelled just that Ellis' run is ending on Moon Knight. This one for example.
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Old May 23 2014, 08:18 PM   #3697
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I was under the impression for some reason that it was a mini or limited series. I'm enjoying it quite a bit so far.
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Old May 23 2014, 08:32 PM   #3698
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No I believe it was advertised as an ongoing or at least a comic that was going to be more than 6 issues.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/05/...o-one-noticed/

And Iron Patriot seems to have been stealth cancelled. Despite having no reboot, Marvel is acting more and more like DC during their headless chicken phase following Flashpoint.
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Old May 23 2014, 09:12 PM   #3699
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I was under the impression for some reason that it was a mini or limited series. I'm enjoying it quite a bit so far.
This was actually my impression as well. "Cancelled" was a poor choice of words on my part. The owner of my LCS said there was little interest in it.
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Old May 24 2014, 07:54 PM   #3700
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Well...damn it...this is one way to force me to read All Meh.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/05/...all-new-x-men/
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Old May 24 2014, 11:02 PM   #3701
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Speaking of All-New and Uncanny X-Men as well, both of which I am enjoying btw (yes, I'm the one). It kind of kills the whole shared universe feel of collecting multiple titles when two titles (both by Bendis, btw) are telling completely different stories with the same group of characters.
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Old May 24 2014, 11:30 PM   #3702
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Bendis is a machine.

(He talks in his sleep. Records that, and hands it in.)

He can with enough Redbull write a couple years ahead of where he needs to be to be collecting his cheque from Marvel.

If he's handing everything in YEARS before they need to be, isn't it possible that stuff is a little out of sync after the editors have finished butchering his work?
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Old May 24 2014, 11:49 PM   #3703
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Hunh. Did not see that one coming. Interesting. I stopped reading the Ultimate line years ago, but if they're removing Spidey from it it sounds infinitely less interesting.
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Old May 25 2014, 12:00 AM   #3704
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i hope thats just a one off thing. Spider Man does not belong with the X-Men. 616 or Ultimate.
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Old May 25 2014, 01:25 AM   #3705
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JD I posted that a few days ago in the thread.
Oops, sorry. This have been where I saw it then.

As for all of the cancellations and writer changes, doesn't that stuff tend to happen around events like Original Sin?
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