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Old February 14 2014, 09:44 PM   #3451
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Re: Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers)

I remember seeing a complicated timeline depicting how they shuffled the 90s series untold tales of Spider-Man into the first couple years of 60's Amazing Spider-Man.

I wonder if Slott is aware of this series?

Byrne did a re-origin year one series as well.
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Old February 14 2014, 11:21 PM   #3452
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The series was written by Busiek so yes most people are aware of it.
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Old February 15 2014, 01:11 AM   #3453
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Re: Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers)

Byrne's Chapter One has been actively retconned out.
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Old February 15 2014, 02:48 AM   #3454
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Slott's a continuity nut of even the most obscure stuff so I'm sure he's very aware of Untold Tales. Heck, it probably even inspired him to do this.
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Old February 15 2014, 03:52 AM   #3455
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Doesn't Untold Tales take place in the same time period though? I don't remember that series well but I remember liking it.
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Old February 15 2014, 04:18 AM   #3456
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Re: Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers)

It's not pictorial, but this gets the point across.

http://www.comicsbackissues.com/comi...er-chronology/

Untold Tales took account of all the events in every issue of Amazing Spider-Man, carefully explaining how Peter is still reeling from what happened in the most recent issues of Amazing that were published in the 60s, while foreshadowing events that are about to happen in the next chronologically relevant issues of Amazing Spider-Man.

Busiek had a hand down his pants while writing Untold obsessing on continuity porn.
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Old February 15 2014, 07:45 AM   #3457
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thats what i loved about Untold Tales. such attention to continuity. he even explains why Peter stops wearing glasses between certain issues of Amazing.
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Old February 15 2014, 08:48 AM   #3458
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That's what Busiek does. Remember in Avengers Forever when he stopped halfway through to fix every continuity error ever over the course of two issues?
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thats why i love Avengers Forever so much.
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The Roman Perez Ditko-Esque Spidey looks fantastic and it should be interesting to see how Slott writes teenage Peter. Sounds to me like Slott's been inspired or that this is his take on Untold Tales. I don't remember the exact issue or even if it was Slott or Hickman, but one of the issues with the FF Johnny references when Peter asked Sue out.
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Old February 15 2014, 07:19 PM   #3461
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Well, at first glance, a 19 year old girl dating a 40 year old man is not exactly emotionally healthy.

Maybe Peter was trying to save her?

Or did he misunderstand the situation and think that Reed was her dad?
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Old February 16 2014, 12:31 AM   #3462
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I think that Gladiator is being awfully short-sighted in the "Trial of Jean Grey". What happens if Jean isn't allowed to go back and fulfill her role in history? It doesn't help the D'Bari survive. Without Jean/Phoenix, the D'Bari will die along with the rest of the universe when D'Ken unleashes the M'Kraan crystal (Uncanny X-Men 107-108). And Gladiator will help him do it!
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Old February 16 2014, 12:51 AM   #3463
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Gladiator is almost the last of his species. Just him and Kid Gladiator. He's probably pretty law and order on issues of genocide, but a final sentence doesn't have to be death if she is found guilty.

And current theory is that the kids can't go back.

Time is not letting them return.

Which might mean that they can't go back ever and don't have to go back.

Although when Adult Cyclops was briefly erased from existence while young Cyclops was getting chest compressions at the ass end of a fight gone bad... Which seems to indicate that Time is willing to remove a foreign boy but it's really sloppy at cleaning up the narrative.
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Old February 16 2014, 01:10 AM   #3464
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I was under the impression that time wasn't letting them return yet. That they had started something and couldn't go back until they finished it.
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Old February 16 2014, 01:12 AM   #3465
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Mark Gruenwald established way back that you can't change history (any change results in a parallel timeline while you go back to your own). Of course, this is flagrantly ignored a fair bit, so... who knows?
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