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Old October 31 2013, 06:09 AM   #3136
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That exit came out of no where. It's almost like the editors demanded it after 3/4's of the book was already drawn, and the coupling that split because of that departure pisses me off since I really thought it was a deviantly fantastic pairing.
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Old October 31 2013, 06:26 AM   #3137
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The four epilogues were by three different writers, each setting up the next stories in their books and there seemed to be very little cohesion. The first epilogue was by Aaron, wrapping up the battle. The second was by Wood, leading into the next issue of X-Men, the third by Aaron again setting up WatXM and next week's Amazing, with the final epilogue being written by Bendis, setting up the new status quo of All-New and Uncanny.

And no, despite Frank Cho's name being on the cover, he is not listed anywhere in the interior credits.
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Old October 31 2013, 08:48 AM   #3138
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What a disappointment Battle of the Atom was. The start was promising and the concept was decent (apparently this was Jason Aaron's idea) but the execution and Bendis' writing was poor. I did like the epilogues though. Probably the best thing about this particular issue. I will be back to dropping All Meh and Uncanny again even with the upcoming Trial of Jean Grey crossover with Guardians.

I have liked aspects of the Schism...but yes feel that the time has come for reunification...but that probably won't happen for a while yet. Scott and Logan are still at each other's throats and there is just too much mistrust and a lack of communication going on right now between the two sides for any kind of reconciliation to happen. Maybe before "X-Men: Days of Future Past" comes out next year...but even that I see as unlikely.
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Old October 31 2013, 12:38 PM   #3139
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I like the Schism and after AVSX it makes perfect sense for those two groups to be at war with each other.

I really don't buy Kitty defecting to Cyclops. That does not make sense to me at all. Am I forgetting some kind of lead-in to this throughout this unnecessarily long crossover? The Original Five I can begrudgingly go with because the only way to redeem Old Cyke is to be with him.

Guy, I am reading Infinity and Avengers and New Avengers and before a new issue comes out I re-read the previous issue the day before... and I still don't understand how the Builders went from being invincible and about to kill everyone to being defeated off-screen Hell, the "previously on" page of Infinity #5 shows the image of the Alephs going into Kill Everyone Mode!!!
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Old October 31 2013, 02:01 PM   #3140
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All the other races were cowed by the Builder's show of force against the combined fleets of the Council. Thor killing one of the Builders showed them that they could fight back and they rose up against the Builders and the Alpehs. Captain Universe also neutralized the direct threat of the Builders themselves. It's all there in the books, Marvel even has a chart showing you how to read the crossover and they kept it simple too.
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Old October 31 2013, 03:42 PM   #3141
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I really don't buy Kitty defecting to Cyclops. That does not make sense to me at all.
1) Kitty likes the dark side. Pete Wisdom, anyone?
2) Her future self was on the bad/ends-justify-the-means side.

In short, she's not all puppies and unicorns and rainbows.
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Old October 31 2013, 06:09 PM   #3142
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Captain Universe killed ALL the Builders? I did not get that impression at all.
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Old October 31 2013, 07:25 PM   #3143
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Sorry for doubting you Light.

I saw what captain Universe did in the flash back but I struggled to remember actually reading it happen.

You have to remember, that for an entire species, there was only a handful of Builders et all.

Who wants to give me a sleazy and inappropriate high five for Sam and Smasher hooking up?
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Old October 31 2013, 07:42 PM   #3144
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Who wants to give me a sleazy and inappropriate high five for Sam and Smasher hooking up?
*high five*
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Old October 31 2013, 08:42 PM   #3145
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They did some smashing, all right...!

If Captain Universe killing a couple Builders was the true turning point of the war, than that's pretty anti-climactic. All the loss and struggle and the planets working together didn't really mean anything, but this one god-like character on the team just washes the problem away? I thought Ex Nihilo leading a revolution of Gardeners would have made a lot more sense, one led by Captain Universe if need be.

Not to mention the fact that in New Avengers we learned that there are other Builders in the other universes, so basically defeating this batch only accounts for like 1% of them.
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Old October 31 2013, 10:13 PM   #3146
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Now that I've read X-Men: Battle of the Atom #2...

If the idea was to celebrate 50 years of X-Men history, this was a horrible, horrible project.

I won't repeat my litany of complaints from the last two months. This issue seemed to have been designed more to set up future plotlines than to resolve outstanding plot threads.

I guess Jean-Xorn is the young Jean Grey, who never returned to the past, all grown up. That seems like a logical implication of the last two issues.

I'm not bothered by Kitty Pryde's decision at the end. Nor of the decision of the original five to throw in with Cyclops.

In the final analysis, Battle of the Atom is something I cannot recommend.
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Old October 31 2013, 11:02 PM   #3147
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In the final analysis, Battle of the Atom is something I cannot recommend.
It's getting torn up on the CBR boards also. Seems the overwhelming conclusion is "why did I fall for this 'event' schtick again".
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Old October 31 2013, 11:11 PM   #3148
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I would have enjoyed the little homage to the cover of X men 1 if it hadn't been so crappily drawn.
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Old November 1 2013, 02:44 AM   #3149
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Battle of the Atom just kind of spun its wheels, went nowhere, then stopped. The only thing that happened was the Kitty and the O5 changed Bendis books. Now they're in the one I was getting ready to drop. Grr...
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Old November 1 2013, 03:12 AM   #3150
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It's almost like they had your house bugged.

Marvel working hand in hand with the NSA to make comics better!
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