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Old October 24 2013, 08:25 PM   #3106
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Re: Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers)

Wolverine and the X-Men #37 -- "Battle of the Atom," chapter 9 (of 10).

Here, in the penultimate chapter, we get some revelations. The future X-Men from the first half of the crossover? They're the future Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. (Yes, that means that Jean Gray, Beast, and Kitty Pryde have gone over to the Dark Side.) We find out how there's a good future Iceman and an evil future Iceman.

But the big revelation -- why the future BoEM is doing what they're doing -- goes unexplained except for the cliffhanger splash. I'm not clear what's so shocking about the cliffhanger splash. And, frankly, this feels like a giant predestination paradox.

The issue is generally competent, but it's also uninvolving for reasons that have more to do with the larger story than itself -- when you don't understand what the stakes are and why people are doing what they're doing, it's really hard to care. The X-Men teams -- All-New, Cyclops, Wolverine, good Future -- are all reacting to the plot rather than doing anything to proactively push the story. I realize that's partly structural -- when one of your major plot twists is that the future characters are actually baddies, you don't give that away at the start -- but keeping too much too close to the vest for too long has made this story a frustrating exercise that's the fictional equivalent of spinning tires on wet sand.
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Old October 24 2013, 08:55 PM   #3107
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Re: Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers)

This is the first issue I thought was a continuity fracas.

Is fake Jean a really good kisser, or was real Jean just a shoddy kisser?

I wonder where Emma falls in the pash spectrum?
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Old October 24 2013, 11:16 PM   #3108
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pash?
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Old October 25 2013, 04:09 AM   #3109
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The root-word is "passion". The word pash means kissing (open mouth for a duration = pashing) and was popular 20 years ago with Australian teenagers on Neighbours.

There's also pashed, and pashes, but again, 20 year old southern hemisphere slang.
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Old October 25 2013, 12:37 PM   #3110
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slang?

(just kidding)
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Old October 25 2013, 01:38 PM   #3111
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Battle of the Atom has slowly lost all interest for me and I was really enjoying the first few chapters. To many teams, to many characters, to much nonsense not going anywhere or having anything explained. In other words a typical modern Marvel event. Sad when I think of how well the original Secret Wars was compared to anything from the last decade.
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Old October 26 2013, 12:06 AM   #3112
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I'm sure it would have been a lot better if it was 5 parts instead of 10...
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Old October 26 2013, 12:20 AM   #3113
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And to think Frank Cho almost killed himself penciling it.
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Old October 26 2013, 01:01 AM   #3114
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I'm sure it would have been a lot better if it was 5 parts instead of 10...
A lot of things would be better at shorter lengths. Avengers Vs. X-Men might have been tremendous at half (or even a third) the length.

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And to think Frank Cho almost killed himself penciling it.
Whoa. Really? That's pretty bad.
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Old October 26 2013, 02:11 AM   #3115
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I don't remember Frank Cho drawing any of the issues. Did he do part one?

Avengers vs X-Men was chock full of story and movements and ideas and was a good length. This story is just one protracted fight/chase scene. It's a single beat drawn out ten times. AVSX was like three separate mega stories crammed together.
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Old October 26 2013, 02:33 AM   #3116
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I don't remember Frank Cho drawing any of the issues. Did he do part one?
Yeah, Cho drew the first part of the framing mini-series. I don't remember if he's drawing the final issue of the mini-series, which is out on Wednesday.
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Old October 26 2013, 09:04 AM   #3117
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Battle of the Atom would be a lot better if Bendis was no where near the X-Men
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Old October 26 2013, 09:52 AM   #3118
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Possibly, but it would have been much better if Jean would have stuck it out with Hank, instead of running back to that wimp Scott the first time used his backbone.
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Old October 30 2013, 12:54 AM   #3119
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Marvel is planning a Winter Soldier mini just in time for the movie. Whodathunkit?

If it were by Brubaker, I would gobble it up, but it's by Remender and tying into his Cap run, which is "meh" to me for several reasons. Pass.
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Old October 30 2013, 12:55 AM   #3120
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I'll be getting it
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