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Old October 19 2013, 07:32 AM   #3076
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i too didn't like the art of Fearless Defenders. the covers though, those were great. i was reading it for Valkyrie.

how do you make a Defenders title last and not suck? get a good writer and use characters from the original team. Hulk, Dr Strange, Namor, Silver Surfer. throw in Valkyrie, Gargoyle and maybe Hellcat just for fun.
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Old October 19 2013, 09:13 AM   #3077
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Most people consider Kurt Busiek and Matt Fraction to be good writers and neither of them could make the book profitable.
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Old October 19 2013, 09:16 AM   #3078
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I saw this the other day and was sad. Loved Fearless Defenders, and yeah the art bothered me too. It could be inconsistent at times.
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Old October 19 2013, 10:01 AM   #3079
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It's just a bad name.

We understand the history.

Strange, Namor and Hulk.

Three dickheads that could never make it in the Avengers.

I really liked the idea of how the Hulk was like a down and out seedy friend who never really accomplished anything, who would crash on Stephen's couch for months at a time, and drink all his beer, just like that friend from college "you" had before the wife got rid of him.

Um.

Remind me how Namor fits into this dynamic?

(Trinamic?)

Is Namor the rich kid that pays for stuff?

So Strange is Archie, Hulk is Jughead and Namor is Reggie?

(Reggie isn't as Rich as Veronica, but lets not over complicate this.)
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Old October 19 2013, 02:01 PM   #3080
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how do you make a Defenders title last and not suck? get a good writer and use characters from the original team. Hulk, Dr Strange, Namor, Silver Surfer. throw in Valkyrie, Gargoyle and maybe Hellcat just for fun.
I think the real point to publishing a Defenders book now is to protect the trademark. Marvel trots it out every few years so that it doesn't expire. Same with Invaders. If the book is a success, great. If not, well, that wasn't the point of the exercise in the first place.
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Old October 19 2013, 03:38 PM   #3081
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I think the real point to publishing a Defenders book now is to protect the trademark. Marvel trots it out every few years so that it doesn't expire. Same with Invaders. If the book is a success, great. If not, well, that wasn't the point of the exercise in the first place.
No doubt that's a factor.
Learned their lesson losing the rights to the name Champions.

I did like the art in the book though. I think I understand why they did what they did with Annabelle and Valkyrie but I was indifferent to Annabelle and others seem to have been turned off.
Bonding her with a mortal felt like a riff on Donald Blake/Thor.
The Valkyrie costume redesign is nice, I do hope TPTP keep that as she shows back up later in the MCU.
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How do they make a Defenders series that doesn't suck?

If Avengers can sell 6 books, it can't be that difficult?
Call the book the Defending Avengers.
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Old October 19 2013, 05:48 PM   #3083
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How do they make a Defenders series that doesn't suck?

If Avengers can sell 6 books, it can't be that difficult?
Call the book the Defending Avengers.
Wolverine and the Defending Avengers.
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Old October 19 2013, 07:00 PM   #3084
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Superior Defenders.
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Old October 19 2013, 07:21 PM   #3085
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Superior Defenders.
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Old October 19 2013, 07:39 PM   #3086
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All New Defenders. I actually wouldn't doubt that we get something like this in the near future.
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Old October 20 2013, 01:05 AM   #3087
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X-Defenders?
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Old October 20 2013, 01:35 AM   #3088
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Defenders XX.

Clea, Namora, Nova, Red Shehulk.
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I prefer the classic Defenders: Dr. Strange, Hulk, Valkyrie, Nighthawk and a rotating fifth member.
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All New Defenders. I actually wouldn't doubt that we get something like this in the near future.
I would doubt it. Marvel's protected the "Defenders" trademark for the next five years with Fearless Defenders. There's no compelling reason to launch another Defenders book for the next three or four years, not when that publishing slot can be filled with something like a new Avengers book, an Inhumans-family book, etc.
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