Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers) - Page 2

Hound of UIster · June 4 2010, 12:28 AM

Nick Ryder wrote:

Plus the new suit's kinda cool actually. I'm still thinking that Steve will be running SHIELD soon though. By the way... whatever happened to SHIELD/HAMMER anyway? Was it just entirely dissolved or what?

SHIELD was dissolved and its material assets and agents absorbed into HAMMER along with the Initiative, the Avengers and Thunderbolts.

The helicarriers and many of the former SHIELD agents were taken by Nick Fury after he decided to go to war against Hydra. What remains of HAMMER is being decommissioned and its personnel put on trial for treason and other related crimes.

Steve Roger is currently the leader of the Avengers and whats left of the Initiative and they have been put in charge of the nation's security.

Nick Ryder · June 4 2010, 12:38 AM

So for the first time in like 40 some years there's no SHIELD - no big ass United Spy Agency running around? That's kind of shocking really...

Turtletrekker · June 4 2010, 02:15 AM

^ There's always been a SHIELD, going all the way back to 2620 BC. I doubt that just because the public face has been dissolved, that the organization ended.

Hound of UIster · June 4 2010, 02:27 AM

They aren't the same.

It's like the ancient and modern day Olympics.

Admiral_Young · June 4 2010, 03:40 AM

Currently there is no SHIELD but I wouldn't be surprised if we got an ongoing for later this year or next called "Steve Rogers: Director of SHIELD"

Anwar · June 4 2010, 04:12 AM

Well, wasn't SHIELD just a front set up by HYDRA all along? HYDRA and their ancient conspiracy still are out there.

Admiral_Young · June 4 2010, 04:29 AM

^ Yep and that reminds me I can't wait until the SHIELD first arc is collected...I'm really interested in what Jonathon Hickman is doing with the series and the history of the organization. I think it's fantastic that it spans so long.

Hound of UIster · June 4 2010, 09:53 PM

Anwar wrote:

Well, wasn't SHIELD just a front set up by HYDRA all along? HYDRA and their ancient conspiracy still are out there.

Kind of.

SHIELD and HYDRA are revealed to be the fronts for twin organizations that were created to safeguard the development of the human race.

Turtletrekker · June 8 2010, 08:53 AM

I picked up Avengers Prime #1 and liked it well enough, although I don't think the issues between Rogers, Stark and Thor needed a five issue (bi-monthly no less) series to hash out. By the time this little "side adventure" is over, Avengers will be on issue 9, and I really think people will be over it by then.

Alan Davis has long been a favorite of mine, and his art was great as always.

So, does Tony remember anything past Civil War or not? He was sure defending his actions like he did.

My favorite pick up of the week was Hawkeye and Mockingbird #1. Picking up where New Avengers: The Reunion left off, we learn more about Mockingbird's new WCA and see the return of...

Hawk and Mock have always been favorites of mine, so I was really looking forward to this book, and was not disappointed.

Admiral_Young · June 8 2010, 08:56 AM

^ What do you mean does Tony remember anything post Civil War? I'm pretty sure I remembered reading a line from him near the end of "Avengers#1" where he addresses it to Steve and Steve and him have a small talk and essentially says they both made mistakes and now it's time to move past them.

Turtletrekker · June 8 2010, 08:58 AM

As I understood it, when Tony's mind was "re-booted" just prior to Siege, his memories were going to to be incomplete, and that he wouldn't remember anything past Civil War.

Admiral_Young · June 8 2010, 09:33 AM

I thought you were referring to his mind reboot...yeah as far as I know so far he's indicated no signs of that but maybe that will be a plot line that will be explored later down the line.

Anwar · June 8 2010, 11:50 AM

He didn't remember how he put Norman Osborn in charge of the Thunderbolts and how that led to Dark Reign.

Admiral_Young · June 8 2010, 03:07 PM

^ Didn't he originally release Norman with the nanite deal in order to chase Peter after Peter flipped to Steve's side?

Mike Farley · June 8 2010, 04:44 PM

While Tony doesn't have any actual memories back to about the time of Extremis, he has done the research to know what he did.

June 4 2010, 12:38 AM	#17
Nick Ryder Fleet Captain Location: Milwaukee, WI Da Brew City	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) So for the first time in like 40 some years there's no SHIELD - no big ass United Spy Agency running around? That's kind of shocking really... __________________ "Here you are in the club with your bottle full of Bud, you got grillz you got bling, but playa you don't know a thing..." Alice Cooper - Disco Bloodbath Boogie Fever

June 4 2010, 02:15 AM	#18
Turtletrekker Vice Admiral Location: Tacoma, Washington	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) ^ There's always been a SHIELD, going all the way back to 2620 BC. I doubt that just because the public face has been dissolved, that the organization ended. __________________ Coulson lives!

June 4 2010, 02:27 AM	#19
Hound of UIster Rear Admiral	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) They aren't the same. It's like the ancient and modern day Olympics.

June 4 2010, 03:40 AM	#20
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) Currently there is no SHIELD but I wouldn't be surprised if we got an ongoing for later this year or next called "Steve Rogers: Director of SHIELD" __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

June 4 2010, 04:12 AM	#21
Anwar Vice Admiral Location: Regina, SK, Canada	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) Well, wasn't SHIELD just a front set up by HYDRA all along? HYDRA and their ancient conspiracy still are out there.

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June 4 2010, 04:29 AM	#22
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) ^ Yep and that reminds me I can't wait until the SHIELD first arc is collected...I'm really interested in what Jonathon Hickman is doing with the series and the history of the organization. I think it's fantastic that it spans so long. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

June 8 2010, 08:53 AM	#24
Turtletrekker Vice Admiral Location: Tacoma, Washington	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) I picked up Avengers Prime #1 and liked it well enough, although I don't think the issues between Rogers, Stark and Thor needed a five issue (bi-monthly no less) series to hash out. By the time this little "side adventure" is over, Avengers will be on issue 9, and I really think people will be over it by then. Alan Davis has long been a favorite of mine, and his art was great as always. I liked that Steve found a shield to use that he'll be comfortable with, but I thought finding the blue chainmail was a a little cheesy. So, does Tony remember anything past Civil War or not? He was sure defending his actions like he did. My favorite pick up of the week was Hawkeye and Mockingbird #1. Picking up where New Avengers: The Reunion left off, we learn more about Mockingbird's new WCA and see the return of... ...the pair's arch-nemeses, Crossfire and the ghost of the second Ghost Rider-- the one that raped Mockingbird when she was trapped in the old west. Hawk and Mock have always been favorites of mine, so I was really looking forward to this book, and was not disappointed. __________________ Coulson lives! Last edited by Turtletrekker; June 8 2010 at 09:11 AM.

June 8 2010, 08:56 AM	#25
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) ^ What do you mean does Tony remember anything post Civil War? I'm pretty sure I remembered reading a line from him near the end of "Avengers#1" where he addresses it to Steve and Steve and him have a small talk and essentially says they both made mistakes and now it's time to move past them. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

June 8 2010, 08:58 AM	#26
Turtletrekker Vice Admiral Location: Tacoma, Washington	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) As I understood it, when Tony's mind was "re-booted" just prior to Siege, his memories were going to to be incomplete, and that he wouldn't remember anything past Civil War. __________________ Coulson lives!

June 8 2010, 09:33 AM	#27
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) I thought you were referring to his mind reboot...yeah as far as I know so far he's indicated no signs of that but maybe that will be a plot line that will be explored later down the line. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

June 8 2010, 11:50 AM	#28
Anwar Vice Admiral Location: Regina, SK, Canada	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) He didn't remember how he put Norman Osborn in charge of the Thunderbolts and how that led to Dark Reign.

June 8 2010, 03:07 PM	#29
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) ^ Didn't he originally release Norman with the nanite deal in order to chase Peter after Peter flipped to Steve's side? __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

June 8 2010, 04:44 PM	#30
Mike Farley Commodore Location: Lost Vegas	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) While Tony doesn't have any actual memories back to about the time of Extremis, he has done the research to know what he did.