Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers)

[Mike Farley]

Technically NO new comics shipped this week. These were shipped last week so shops would have something new to put on the shelves for Christmas week.

[Guy Gardener]

Yes, last week was huge.

I am still working through.

But what comic shop would have the self restraint to split the order and withhold from their customers?

That's some cold and manipulative shit.

[Admiral_Young]

I think this is the first time in a few years where we didn't get any What If's from Marvel, I believe they had used that last week of December previously to do that right?

[Mr Light]

What If they didn't make a What If this year? That's the What If

[Nerys Myk]

What if Doc Ock and Spidey switched bodies?

[Admiral_Young]

^ Nice one

[Turtletrekker]

It's funny how these things work out. This week, I had a huge stack of comics to pick up, and I haven't even had a chance to read them all yet. Next week, just one-- Fantastic Four.

Previews for next week--

Age of Apocalypse #11
Avengers Arena #3
Cable and X-Force #3
Fantastic Four #3
First X-Men #5
Marvel Universe Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes #10
Marvel Universe Vs. Avengers #4
Punisher: Nightmare #2
Punisher War Zone #3
Scarlet Spider #13
Secret Avengers #36
Secret Service #5
Superior Spider-Man #1
Thunderbolts #3
Thor: God of Thunder #4
Ultimate Comics X-Men #21
Wolverine and the X-Men #23
X-Men Legacy #4

[Mr Light]

New Avengers #1 was extremely underwhelming. It basically felt like the exact same thing as Avengers #1 only starring only the Black Panther...

[Admiral_Young]

"Avengers" and "New Avengers" are interconnected and a companion series (similar to how Hickman used Fantastic Four and FF). I am guessing the visitors are somehow connected to Hickman's attempt at bringing back the New Universe. I loved it. Also I would take a Hickman written Black Panther series in a second. I'm officially dropping "All New X-Men". Just don't like it. The Stuart Immonen art is the best thing about the book.

Next week's pulls:

-Cable and X-Force #3
-Scarlett Spider-Man #13
-Superior Spider-Man #1
-Thunderbolts #3
-Thor: God of Thunder #4 (This one is starting to lose my interest)
-Ultimate Comics X-Men #21
-Wolverine and the X-Men #23

[Captain Craig]

This past week I got Red She-Hulk #61 and Punisher: Nightmare #1

She-Hulk isn't overly wowing me, it's decent, but I'm going to see where this arc ends up.
Punisher Nightmare was really good. The Texeria art always is pleasing for the character. A book that took more than 5 min to read for once, loaded with backstory for the second main character. As a huge fan of Punisher it was fun to once again see the classic white gloves/white boots version of the character. He's also portrayed here as a thinker, tactician and boogeyman that I enjoyed so much with Rucka's run.
The story does feel like a rehash of what Rucka did with Rachel Cole-Alves except this time the parallels are much more a mirror or the Punisher's origin. Be curious to see how/if it diverges from Frank and Rachel.

Interesting that #2 comes out next week, back to back for Nightmare and with War Zone #3. Thunderbolts #3(not impressed with though so far) with Frank also, lots of Punisher love next week.

[Allyn Gibson]

Superior Spider-Man #1.

I didn't know Marvel Comics published one-and-dones any more. And yet, that's what Dan Slott delivered here -- a story that finishes in a single issue. The Sinister Six are making some noise. Spider-Ock has to defeat them, and he goes about it in a very un-Peter Parker-like way.

Slott also explores some of the larger issues raised by "Dying Wish," particularly how different Otto Octavius is from Peter Parker psychologically, and I suspect that if Otto continues to act the way he does here that the people who have known Peter are going to suspect that there's something very wrong.

The final page wasn't unexpected. That was one of the obvious "outs" to the mind-swap -- that there's more of Peter than just his memories inside Spider-Ock's head -- and it suggests that we'll be entering phildickian mindfuck territory as we go forward in Superior. It also makes clear that this isn't a permanent status quo change since the gun is plainly on the mantelpiece; the only question is when we reach Chekhov's third act.

All in all, I liked it.

[Admiral_Young]

Incidentally we were teased with a "Fired" teaser yesterday for April with the Avengers shown in the background. I believe that perhaps people will start figuring out that Peter isn't exactly quite right sooner than even I thought.

Also Avenging Spider-Man 15.1 already established the "out", Superior Spider-Man #1 just reinforces it.

[Allyn Gibson]

Admiral_Young wrote:

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Incidentally we were teased with a "Fired" teaser yesterday for April with the Avengers shown in the background. I believe that perhaps people will start figuring out that Peter isn't exactly quite right sooner than even I thought.

I wonder if that's Slott's solution to the sexual consent issues raised by the situation. He's been telling people to read SSM #2 because the answer's there, and I'm starting to think that MJ tells "Peter" to take a hike because (from her perspective) he's gone mental.

Admiral_Young wrote:

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Also Avenging Spider-Man 15.1 already established the "out", Superior Spider-Man #1 just reinforces it.

I think Avenging only hinted at it. SSM #1 makes it explicit with the final page reveal.

[Hound of UIster]

I think all the people who have threatened to kill or physically harm Dan Slott owe the man an apology.

Admiral_Young wrote:

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Incidentally we were teased with a "Fired" teaser yesterday for April with the Avengers shown in the background. I believe that perhaps people will start figuring out that Peter isn't exactly quite right sooner than even I thought.

Also Avenging Spider-Man 15.1 already established the "out", Superior Spider-Man #1 just reinforces it.

SSM is probably not Otto at all, but really just a Peter Parker who thinks he is.

[Admiral_Young]

That's a theory that I've heard too...nothing seems to really satisfy the "haters" towards this story arc though.