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Old July 15 2014, 07:52 PM   #391
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...A bit unrelated, but, are there any books that I should pick up from each of the series?
Oh so many! Check out the flowchart attached to Thrawn's signature in post #377 near the top of the page. So many fantastic books...
Yeah, I've got that bookmarked. Are there any in specific that you would recommend? Doesn't matter if they are from a series or a stand-alone book.
That I would recommend? There are quite a few actually...

I loved the Vanguard series, which you are tackling now.

I'm a big fan of the 24th century continuing stories like the DS9 relaunch, the Voyager relaunch, and the post-Nemesis TNG books. My favs from each run are Full Circle (VOY), Abyss (DS9), and Losing the Peace (TNG). I also highly recommend the Destiny trilogy by David Mack if you like the 24th century crews.

In terms of 'single' books, a few of my favs are Articles of the Federation and A Singular Destiny, both by Keith R.A. DeCandido.

I also love the Lost Era books, which are unified only by the fact that they take place between 2293 and 2364. Serpents Among the Ruins by DRG3, Art of the Impossible by KRAD, and The Buried Age by Christopher L. Bennett are my top choices.

I would recommend all of these books, and I'm sure everyone else who hangs out here regularly has their own choices as well. Good luck with whatever you choose. Hopefully you take an interest in some of the ones I mentioned here
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Old July 15 2014, 09:34 PM   #392
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Have the novels ever given a specific date in 2265 as the starting date for the 5YM of TOS?
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Old July 15 2014, 10:03 PM   #393
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Oh so many! Check out the flowchart attached to Thrawn's signature in post #377 near the top of the page. So many fantastic books...
Yeah, I've got that bookmarked. Are there any in specific that you would recommend? Doesn't matter if they are from a series or a stand-alone book.
That I would recommend? There are quite a few actually...

I loved the Vanguard series, which you are tackling now.

I'm a big fan of the 24th century continuing stories like the DS9 relaunch, the Voyager relaunch, and the post-Nemesis TNG books. My favs from each run are Full Circle (VOY), Abyss (DS9), and Losing the Peace (TNG). I also highly recommend the Destiny trilogy by David Mack if you like the 24th century crews.

In terms of 'single' books, a few of my favs are Articles of the Federation and A Singular Destiny, both by Keith R.A. DeCandido.

I also love the Lost Era books, which are unified only by the fact that they take place between 2293 and 2364. Serpents Among the Ruins by DRG3, Art of the Impossible by KRAD, and The Buried Age by Christopher L. Bennett are my top choices.

I would recommend all of these books, and I'm sure everyone else who hangs out here regularly has their own choices as well. Good luck with whatever you choose. Hopefully you take an interest in some of the ones I mentioned here
Awesome, thanks. I'll definitely consider picking up the ones you've suggested. The relaunch ones, I think I might wait off until after I've trodded through Vanguard and the A Time To.. series.

I do have one of the Lost Era books, with the Excelsior, I think. I think it might be the one that ties into that one Titan book, where they go into the neighboring galaxy.
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Old July 15 2014, 11:33 PM   #394
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Have the novels ever given a specific date in 2265 as the starting date for the 5YM of TOS?
I think it's probably best to leave that up in the air, given all the inconsistent information. But my assumption is that while Kirk took command of the E in 2265, the 5-year mission proper did not begin until late '65 or early '66. Before then, the ship was on other, shorter missions such as the probe to the rim of the galaxy. After all, a dedicated mission that long would've taken months and wouldn't make sense as part of a general 5-year patrol/survey tour. And the ship was refit between the second pilot and the series, and that's something you'd expect to fall between missions rather than during one.

(It's also borne out by the alternate reality. Abramsverse Kirk commanded the ship for roughly two years -- including a fair amount of time with the ship under repairs -- before setting out on a 5-year mission.)
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Old July 16 2014, 01:34 AM   #395
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While reading through the Lit-Verse site, a question came to mind, where should I start with the TOS books? Are they not 'interconnected' like the TNG/DS9/etc books are?
Hey Last Redshirt. Thanks for checking out my site. The TOS books have never been as interconnected as the 24th century books so you could start with any of them and not really miss anything so long as you are familiar with TOS and the films. Some of my recommendations though would be Burning Dreams, Mere Anarchy, Ex Machina, Forgotten History,the Rihanssu series, and Forged in Fire.

You could also do what I did when I read through about 40 of the most important TOS books. I picked the ones I wanted to read and did them in chronological order. I mostly picked stuff the filled in gaps like Pike books, My Brother's Keeper, The Lost Years saga, and movie era books.

Good luck getting into Trek Lit. Lots of fun in store.
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Old July 16 2014, 02:44 AM   #396
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I do have one of the Lost Era books, with the Excelsior, I think. I think it might be the one that ties into that one Titan book, where they go into the neighboring galaxy.
That's The Sundered. It's set in 2298. I was a fan of that one as well. I also liked The Red King (the 'sequel') from Titan. Both written by Andy Mangels & Michael Martin. If you want to read some Excelsior stories, i'd also check out Excelsior: Forged in Fire (Also by M&M) set in 2290 & 2295, and The Captain's Daughter by Peter David, set in 2294. Those will also lead into the DRG3 Enterprise-B books from the Lost Era.

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Old July 16 2014, 02:58 PM   #397
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I do have one of the Lost Era books, with the Excelsior, I think. I think it might be the one that ties into that one Titan book, where they go into the neighboring galaxy.
That's The Sundered. It's set in 2298. I was a fan of that one as well. I also liked The Red King (the 'sequel') from Titan. Both written by Andy Mangels & Michael Martin. If you want to read some Excelsior stories, i'd also check out Excelsior: Forged in Fire (Also by M&M) set in 2290 & 2295, and The Captain's Daughter by Peter David, set in 2294. Those will also lead into the DRG3 Enterprise-B books from the Lost Era.

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Yeah, I've read some of the Titan ones as well. They weren't that bad.

Now what are some books that you would recommend that I avoid?
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Old July 19 2014, 10:10 PM   #398
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I do have one of the Lost Era books, with the Excelsior, I think. I think it might be the one that ties into that one Titan book, where they go into the neighboring galaxy.
That's The Sundered. It's set in 2298. I was a fan of that one as well. I also liked The Red King (the 'sequel') from Titan. Both written by Andy Mangels & Michael Martin. If you want to read some Excelsior stories, i'd also check out Excelsior: Forged in Fire (Also by M&M) set in 2290 & 2295, and The Captain's Daughter by Peter David, set in 2294. Those will also lead into the DRG3 Enterprise-B books from the Lost Era.

So much !!
Yeah, I've read some of the Titan ones as well. They weren't that bad.

Now what are some books that you would recommend that I avoid?
Avoid? Well, I don't like to shit on the work of our hard working writers... but a few I've not been too enamoured with are the TNG 2 part Maximum Warp series, the Genesis Wave 4 book run, Titan's Fallen Gods, and the Typhon Pact story Seize the Fire. I also found the TOS New Earth books kind of hard to get into, but YMMV on those..
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Old October 3 2014, 12:41 AM   #399
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Sorry if this has already been asked or answered but I haven't on the BBS in awhile. Do we have a month and year for when Lust's Latinum Lost takes place? Thanks all.
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Old October 16 2014, 12:20 AM   #400
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I just watched the TNG episode Homeward this morning, and it got me wondering, has any story ever said anything about what became of Nikolai after the end of the episode?
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Old October 16 2014, 12:58 AM   #401
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According to Memory Beta, there was a passing reference to him in "Fables of the Prime Directive," though it doesn't look to have been anything substantial; just that Starfleet checked up with him to see if there was anything else they could do, he still refused to leave, so they decided there wasn't and just cut him loose entirely to avoid further Prime Directive issues.

It must not have been more than just a side comment, though, because I've read that one and I don't remember it at all.
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Old October 16 2014, 01:15 AM   #402
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I figured something like that was probably the case, but I wasn't sure if maybe Worf could have gotten away with going to visit him sometime.
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Old December 5 2014, 05:01 AM   #403
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Question that came to mind recently after Bantam came up in another thread, this seems like the best place to ask: I'm sure that explicit connections would be off-limits due to rights issues, but have there ever been any hints or veiled references towards the events of any of the Bantam novels in any of the Pocket Books novels? Modern or otherwise. I'm just curious if any names were ever dropped, or Bantam plots were eluded to, or anything like that.
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Old December 5 2014, 11:19 AM   #404
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Why would references to Bantam novels be off-limits?

It got Star Trek slapped on the cover, meaning it's a Paramount and/or CBS property.

I know the issue is a strict one among ST games, but aren't the novels a free-for-all operating under a ST licence?
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Old December 5 2014, 02:50 PM   #405
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There's never been any problem with Pocket novels referring to ideas from other publishers' works, such as comic books or role-playing games. All Star Trek concepts belong to CBS (formerly Paramount) and are fair game.

However, the only case I'm aware of where a Pocket novel has referenced a Bantam novel was in The Prometheus Design, where Marshak & Culbreath mentioned the events of their own Phoenix novels from Bantam (and I think "The Procrustean Petard" got an acknowledgment too). More generally, the Bantam books offered versions of the Trek universe that were hard to reconcile with later (or sometimes earlier) screen stories and often weren't all that good.
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