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Old February 12 2014, 06:09 AM   #346
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What Wikipedia article? Your new bible is The Almighty Star Trek Lit-Verse Reading Order Flowchart

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Old February 12 2014, 03:17 PM   #347
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^Well, that flowchart isn't comprehensive, since it only covers the modern continuity, and specifically those parts of it that are directly interconnected. There are countless standalone and other-continuity books that it doesn't address. It's a terrific resource for organizing a particular subset of the novels, but it's not meant to be anything like an exhaustive catalog of all Trek novels.
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Old February 15 2014, 10:44 PM   #348
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What is the proper chronological reading order for the seven books of the Typhon Pact? I see from the flowchart that Plagues of Night, Raise the Dawn, and Brinkmanship come after the first four, but I don't know that that's the correct chronological order.
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Old February 15 2014, 10:51 PM   #349
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Ryan123450 has a chronological list for post Nemesis fcition (but broken down to chapters, not books):

http://startreklitverse.yolasite.com...ar-by-year.php
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Old February 15 2014, 11:30 PM   #350
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I have to apologize for that part of it though. I'm not caught up very far into the Typhon Pact right now in my reading so I have had to leave the info about those books pretty unsure for now. If anyone has any more precise information than I have posted so far, I would really love to have it.''

And thanks for mentioning my site Defcon.
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Old February 16 2014, 03:44 AM   #351
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What is the proper chronological reading order for the seven books of the Typhon Pact? I see from the flowchart that Plagues of Night, Raise the Dawn, and Brinkmanship come after the first four, but I don't know that that's the correct chronological order.
They overlap a lot. Chronologically I'm pretty sure, Rough Beasts comes first, followed by Zero Sum Game and Seize The Fire at roughly the same time, with Paths of Disharmony later. Then Plagues Of Night starts back again before ZSG and STF and tracks a few other subplots while the events of all the previous books happen, eventually moving past them and then (with Raise The Dawn) going on chronologically several months further, and a year later in an epilogue. Brinkmanship takes place before the epilogue, but (I think) after the bulk of RTD.
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Old February 17 2014, 12:17 AM   #352
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What is the proper chronological reading order for the seven books of the Typhon Pact? I see from the flowchart that Plagues of Night, Raise the Dawn, and Brinkmanship come after the first four, but I don't know that that's the correct chronological order.
They overlap a lot. Chronologically I'm pretty sure, Rough Beasts comes first, followed by Zero Sum Game and Seize The Fire at roughly the same time, with Paths of Disharmony later. Then Plagues Of Night starts back again before ZSG and STF and tracks a few other subplots while the events of all the previous books happen, eventually moving past them and then (with Raise The Dawn) going on chronologically several months further, and a year later in an epilogue. Brinkmanship takes place before the epilogue, but (I think) after the bulk of RTD.
Do you have a suggested reading order for the 7 books of the Typhon Pact miniseries? I know now that the chronological order zips around a bit, but wondered about a suggested reading order. Spoilers don't bother me, but I'm trying to avoid having to know of a particular situation that occurred in one book when I'm trying to get full enjoyment out of another one.
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Old February 17 2014, 12:24 AM   #353
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I think that as long as you read Rough Beasts of Empire and Zero Sum Game, and maybe Paths of Disharmony, prior to Plagues of Night/Raise the Dawn, you'll be okay. Otherwise there's not a lot of cross-referencing among the TP books, so the specific reading order is pretty flexible.

As a rule, publication order is usually the safest route in terms of getting the proper story flow.
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Old February 17 2014, 12:34 AM   #354
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Having just done it, I would suggest starting with Rough Beasts of Empire then Zero Sum Game, Seize the Fire and Paths of Disharmony. That's the chronological nature. I didn't read them like that - on the suggestion of the board that RBoE was best kept in third - but I think I'd suggest it going forward. Really, they can be read in any order, but I felt that RBoE smoothes out a particular plot point that Seize and Zero Sum don't acknowledge as existing. (Vague for the sake of spoilers!)
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Old February 17 2014, 12:37 AM   #355
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^Could you spoiler-box it? I'm curious to know what plot point you're referring to.
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Having just done it, I would suggest starting with Rough Beasts of Empire then Zero Sum Game, Seize the Fire and Paths of Disharmony. That's the chronological nature. I didn't read them like that - on the suggestion of the board that RBoE was best kept in third - but I think I'd suggest it going forward. Really, they can be read in any order, but I felt that RBoE smoothes out a particular plot point that Seize and Zero Sum don't acknowledge as existing. (Vague for the sake of spoilers!)
Yeah, on balance, this is probably the best.

Then Plagues of Night, Raise the Dawn, Brinkmanship.
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Old February 18 2014, 09:09 AM   #357
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OK, Rough Beasts, Zero Sum Game, Seize The Fire, Paths of Disharmony, then Plagues, Raise, and Brinkmanship. Thanks much, folks.
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Just noticed your reply, Christopher.

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I have a question about some things in Typhon Pact: Seize the Fire. Two incidents are mentioned of which I have no knowledge of. One is an encounter between Picard and the Gorn during the Enterprise-D's service, and the other is the revelation that some of the crewmen thought dead in "Arena" were actually kidnapped by the Gorn and experimented on for years. Are these references to stories I'm not aware of, or simply ideas created for this book which have never been mentioned before? If they are other stories, I would add them to the lists of connected books.
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Old February 28 2014, 02:58 AM   #360
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I have a question about some things in Typhon Pact: Seize the Fire. Two incidents are mentioned of which I have no knowledge of. One is an encounter between Picard and the Gorn during the Enterprise-D's service, and the other is the revelation that some of the crewmen thought dead in "Arena" were actually kidnapped by the Gorn and experimented on for years. Are these references to stories I'm not aware of, or simply ideas created for this book which have never been mentioned before? If they are other stories, I would add them to the lists of connected books.
The former might be a reference to Requiem by Michael Jan Friedman and Kevin Ryan, which is the only E-D Gorn story I know of; but I don't know for sure. The latter isn't consistent with any other Gorn story I know, so I assume it's original to the book.
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