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Old July 13 2011, 11:38 PM   #166
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Re: Charting the Novel-verse

However, for those of us who (not to start this debate again, but...) don't think the 24th century parts of nu-Trek line up with the timeline we've always known, and thus don't count it as part of our personal continuity, we will be able to just assume Spock died in the destruction of Romulus and ignore any connection to the film.
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Old July 16 2011, 04:37 PM   #167
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OK so I have a question. Starfleet Academy has a character from Titan so that is part of the Lit-verse. That series crossed over with Marvel Voyager, DS9, and Unlimited in one issue. So are those entire series part of the Lit-verse or just the issues specifically connected. For instance VOY issues 1-5 are stand alone, issues 6-9 are referenced in following issues by the "Previously in Star Trek: Voyager" intros, and issues 10-15 are specifically connected to the crossover issue. So what should be included and what left out?

Also, what about something like Untold Voyages, one issue of which references The Pandora Principle, or Assignment: Earth, one issue of which is referenced in Watching the Clock? Should the entire miniseries connect or just the one issue?
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Old July 16 2011, 04:44 PM   #168
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True, Titan includes a character created for the Starfleet Academy comic, but I don't think that necessarily means the actual stories of that comic are part of the same continuity. It could just be a case of one version of the continuity adopting a character from a different version, like the way Batman comics adopted Harley Quinn and Renee Montoya from the animated series.

As for the Assignment: Earth comic, it contradicts the Eugenics Wars novels in several respects, so the whole thing can't fit into the Lit-verse unless you treat it as an alternate timeline.

Ultimately, it's up to the individual reader to decide which works fit together and which don't. Some readers are willing to gloss over inconsistencies that others aren't.
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Old July 16 2011, 08:12 PM   #169
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and Marvel adopted Firestar from Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends.
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Old July 16 2011, 08:36 PM   #170
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And Jimmy Olsen, Perry White, The Daily Planet, and kryptonite originated on radio. And so on.
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Old July 17 2011, 06:47 PM   #171
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Can anyone help, I've just finished the A Time to Series, now although I've read the books post nemesis, has anyone got a list of what has been out post nemesis so I can track them down for my kindle in order
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Old July 17 2011, 07:24 PM   #172
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Can anyone help, I've just finished the A Time to Series, now although I've read the books post nemesis, has anyone got a list of what has been out post nemesis so I can track them down for my kindle in order
This list was provided by Nasat in another thread. I'll include the post-nemesis books only:

TNG: Death in Winter
Titan: Taking Wing
Titan: The Red King
TNG: Resistance
Titan: Orion’s Hounds
TNG: Q and A
Titan: Sword of Damocles
TNG: Before Dishonour
Articles of the Federation
TNG: Greater Than the Sum
Destiny: Gods of Night
Destiny: Mere Mortals
Destiny: Lost Souls
A Singular Destiny
TNG: Losing the Peace
Voyager: Full Circle
Titan: Over a Torrent Sea
Voyager: Unworthy
Titan: Synthesis
Mirror Universe: Rise Like Lions
Voyager: Children of the Storm
Typhon Pact: Rough Beasts of Empire
DTI: Watching the Clock
Typhon Pact: Zero Sum Game
Typhon Pact: Seize the Fire
Typhon Pact: Paths of Disharmony
TNG (technically): Indistinguishable From Magic

This is the thread where he posted it: http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=144958

Enjoy
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Old July 17 2011, 07:25 PM   #173
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This is the chronological order as I understand it. Hope it's right.


TNG: The Sky's the Limit (a few short stories)
TNG: Death in Winter
Titan: Taking Wing
Titan: The Red King
Articles of the Federation
Titan: Orion's Hounds
TNG: Resistance
TNG: Q&A
TNG: Before Dishonor
Titan: Sword of Damocles
TNG: Greater Than the Sum
Destiny: Gods of Night
Destiny: Mere Mortals
Destiny: Lost Souls
TNG: Losing the Peace
A Singular Destiny
Voyager: Full Circle
Titan: Over a Torrent Sea
Voyager: Unworthy
Titan: Synthesis
Voyager: Children of the Storm
DTI: Watching the Clock
Typhon Pact: Zero Sum Game
Typhon Pact: Seize the Fire
Typhon Pact: Rough Beasts of Empire
Typhon Pact: Paths of Disharmony
Indistinguishable From Magic
Typhon Pact: The Struggle Within

Edit: Dang, beat to the punch.
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Old July 17 2011, 07:27 PM   #174
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Can anyone help, I've just finished the A Time to Series, now although I've read the books post nemesis, has anyone got a list of what has been out post nemesis so I can track them down for my kindle in order
This list was provided by Nasat in another thread. I'll include the post-nemesis books only:

TNG: Death in Winter
Titan: Taking Wing
Titan: The Red King
TNG: Resistance
Titan: Orion’s Hounds
TNG: Q and A
Titan: Sword of Damocles
TNG: Before Dishonour
Articles of the Federation
TNG: Greater Than the Sum
Destiny: Gods of Night
Destiny: Mere Mortals
Destiny: Lost Souls
A Singular Destiny
TNG: Losing the Peace
Voyager: Full Circle
Titan: Over a Torrent Sea
Voyager: Unworthy
Titan: Synthesis
Mirror Universe: Rise Like Lions
Voyager: Children of the Storm
Typhon Pact: Rough Beasts of Empire
DTI: Watching the Clock
Typhon Pact: Zero Sum Game
Typhon Pact: Seize the Fire
Typhon Pact: Paths of Disharmony
TNG (technically): Indistinguishable From Magic

This is the thread where he posted it: http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=144958

Enjoy
thanks for this, I actually have a lot of these in paperback, but as I'm moving and not moving to a permanent location yet, decided my books can kind of go as I have the kindle and I'll just grab them for that
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Old July 17 2011, 07:29 PM   #175
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never mind...
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Old July 17 2011, 11:27 PM   #176
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True, Titan includes a character created for the Starfleet Academy comic, but I don't think that necessarily means the actual stories of that comic are part of the same continuity. It could just be a case of one version of the continuity adopting a character from a different version, like the way Batman comics adopted Harley Quinn and Renee Montoya from the animated series.

As for the Assignment: Earth comic, it contradicts the Eugenics Wars novels in several respects, so the whole thing can't fit into the Lit-verse unless you treat it as an alternate timeline.

Ultimately, it's up to the individual reader to decide which works fit together and which don't. Some readers are willing to gloss over inconsistencies that others aren't.
Agreed. And as Christopher may remember, I am one of those readers more willing to shake off an inconsistency.

However, regarding Starfleet Academy, it is worth noting that other than Pava on Titan, DS9: Cathedral established Nog`s membership in Omega Squadron as well as the squads infamous journey to Talos IV, the precursor to the "Telepathy War" crossover. Also- the TNG entry in the Section 31 series utilized backstory for Marta Batanides that was originally esablished in SA issue (IIRC) # 10.
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Old July 18 2011, 12:22 AM   #177
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So, Turtletrekker, do you think on a future update the 'Telepathy War' crossover issues and all the issues which either referenced it, or were referenced in it, will be added to your list?

What about Untold Voyages and Assignement: Earth (which would then also pull in all the John Byrne stuff)?
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Old July 18 2011, 01:30 AM   #178
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^It's always possible that I might expand on the comics section, but I haven't really put a lot of thought in that direction.
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Old July 18 2011, 03:26 PM   #179
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^It's always possible that I might expand on the comics section, but I haven't really put a lot of thought in that direction.
I believe there's a good ref. site for that, I have it bookmarked somewhere...
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Old July 18 2011, 06:07 PM   #180
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Another one to add for Vanguard if it's worth it is that the background to the planet Arcturus mentioned in Open Secrets is consistent with, and was first mentioned in, Enterprise: The First Adventure and possibly The Entropy Effect.
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