How do Niners feel about TNG? - Page 3

tomalak301 · May 19 2010, 06:13 AM

I just like 24th century Star Trek. I grew up with TNG, and love it and DS9 about equally. Both have their goods and bads, but the bads don't ruin my enjoyment. I wish we had another 24th century Star Trek, or even 25th, so we're continuing to move forward in the universe instead of rebooting.

DevilEyes · May 19 2010, 01:12 PM

Nerys Ghemor wrote:

Well, I wouldn't categorize myself as a hater because I believe others have a right to their opinion. And I would never go in the TNG forum and flame people because their tastes differ from mine. That's their right, and I think fans of other shows should be able to enjoy themselves unharassed just as Niners should.

I wasn't 100% serious in that post... The poll was created in the first place because of a poster who accused Niners of being TNG haters. And TheGodBen used to have a VOY rewatch thread in VOY forum called "A hater revisits Voyager", even though he's not a "hater" at all by any definition.

Isn't the "I dislike TNG, DS9 was the superior show" option the right for you?

Nerys Ghemor · May 19 2010, 02:14 PM

I guess. It's just that my opinion was VERY different when I was younger.

M · May 19 2010, 02:21 PM

How I – as a Niner – feel about The Next Generation? I love it! I do, however, think Deep Space Nine is a way better show.

May 19 2010, 03:53 PM

As a Star Trek fan, one thing I have noticed is that these so called Niners are rarely able to esteem the value of their favourite show without denegrating The Next Generation. Try asking a Niner what was so great about DS9 and they'll respond with something like: "oh yeah, it was awesome, it was dark, shades of grey, blah blah blah, and it was much better than TNG. TNG sucked - etc etc".
They can never talk about DS9 without referencing TNG. I think they have some kind of complex.

Jono · May 19 2010, 04:39 PM

^ The poll at the moment seems to indicate your impression is incorrect as the vast majority like TNG.

Though if similar numbers vote in this one as they did in the Voyager thread there is still around 2/3 to go, so you might be showed to be correct in time.

jadzia_dax2369 · May 19 2010, 05:27 PM

hey fellow niners

i like TNG but im a true NINER, i love Deep space nine- it was sooooo much darker than the others, and it was no sheep ( didnt have the borg like both Voyager and The next generation had) which personly i found to be crap. but its just me

CaseNumber825 · May 19 2010, 07:51 PM

I'm kind of wavering between the option of loving both TNG and DS9 and preferring DS9.

I think I'm going to have to go with preferring DS9 because, although TNG is the show that really made me emmerse myself in the Star Trek world, DS9 is the show that cemented me in the Trek world and it's the Trek show that I really obsess over.

Mr. Scott · May 19 2010, 09:49 PM

DS9 was a much better show than TNG. Not that TNG was bad show, but the first season was almost unwatchable and really did not find its feet until the third season. I have TNG on DVD, and I skip probably 40% of the stories.

I have DS9 also, and this show hit the ground running since the pilot episode. I rarely skip over any episodes. This show was good until the final episode. It never let me down. Really the only unwatchable episodes are Bashir with the retarded Augments (the mustached crazy guy, the overly sexaulized woman, the wierd old man and the girl who wouldn't talk,) and the episode where Keiko is possessed by an evil being.

Another thing I really liked about DS9 that it was about family and relationships. Sisko and Jake, Nog, Rom, Quark, Moogie, and Zek, Keiko, Miles and their kids. I do hate the episode at the end of Season 7 when Sisko went away to the Prophets leaving a pregneant Kasidy and Jake alone. Made no sense and made me cry in the end. I loved the DS9 characters. TNG, except for Picard, Data, Worf and Dr. Pulaski, they all couold have been thrown out of an airlock.

Photon · May 19 2010, 10:41 PM

S1/S2 just plain sucked

S3-S6 was very good

S7 just was weaker

Tosk · May 20 2010, 12:31 AM

Mr Cool Dude wrote:

As a Star Trek fan, one thing I have noticed is that these so called Niners are rarely able to esteem the value of their favourite show without denegrating The Next Generation. Try asking a Niner what was so great about DS9 and they'll respond with something like: "oh yeah, it was awesome, it was dark, shades of grey, blah blah blah, and it was much better than TNG. TNG sucked - etc etc".
They can never talk about DS9 without referencing TNG. I think they have some kind of complex.

Either you haven't read the thread at all or you just want a reaction...'cause I'm not seeing the kind of talk you claim is always there.

RyuRoots · May 20 2010, 03:48 AM

Tosk wrote:

Mr Cool Dude wrote:

As a Star Trek fan, one thing I have noticed is that these so called Niners are rarely able to esteem the value of their favourite show without denegrating The Next Generation. Try asking a Niner what was so great about DS9 and they'll respond with something like: "oh yeah, it was awesome, it was dark, shades of grey, blah blah blah, and it was much better than TNG. TNG sucked - etc etc".
They can never talk about DS9 without referencing TNG. I think they have some kind of complex.

Either you haven't read the thread at all or you just want a reaction...'cause I'm not seeing the kind of talk you claim is always there.

Don't lie, Tosk, you know we're all haters. I mean, even I said how much I hate TNG in my own post in this thread.

Tosk · May 20 2010, 04:32 AM

RyuRoots wrote:

I mean, even I said how much I hate TNG in my own post in this thread.

Yeah, but you're a hater, so I have to assume you were lying just to rile people up. But if you were lying, then you're not really a hater...and if you're not a hater, you could be telling the truth...about being a hater.

I'm so confused.

-Brett- · May 20 2010, 04:51 AM

Back in the 90's and early 00s I probably would have voted for option 2.

Now it's more like 3.

Taerdok · May 20 2010, 05:00 AM

I'd have to go with option 3 as my memories of TNG are rather distant and hazy -- the last time I'd seen a TNG episode would probably be 14-15 years ago and I don't recall paying that much attention to it even then.

View Poll Results: How do you feel about TNG?
I love TNG, both it and DS9 are excellent	52	46.02%
I like TNG, but I prefer DS9	44	38.94%
TNG was okay, I have no strong feelings	9	7.96%
I disliked TNG, DS9 was the superior show	4	3.54%
I loath TNG, it ruined everything	1	0.88%
I'm not a Niner but I want to vote for the comic option	3	2.65%
Voters: 113. You may not vote on this poll

May 19 2010, 06:13 AM	#31
tomalak301 Admiral Location: Bay Area, CA	Re: How do Niners feel about TNG? I just like 24th century Star Trek. I grew up with TNG, and love it and DS9 about equally. Both have their goods and bads, but the bads don't ruin my enjoyment. I wish we had another 24th century Star Trek, or even 25th, so we're continuing to move forward in the universe instead of rebooting. __________________ Twitter

May 19 2010, 02:14 PM	#33
Nerys Ghemor Vice Admiral Location: Cardăsa Terăm--Nerys Ghemor	Re: How do Niners feel about TNG? I guess. It's just that my opinion was VERY different when I was younger. __________________ Are you a Cardassian fan, citizen? Prove your loyalty--check out my fanfic universe, Star Trek: Sigils and Unions. Or keep the faith on my AU Cardassia, Sigils and Unions: Catacombs of Oralius!

May 19 2010, 02:21 PM	#34
M Vice Admiral	Re: How do Niners feel about TNG? How I – as a Niner – feel about The Next Generation? I love it! I do, however, think Deep Space Nine is a way better show. __________________ Bashir: »Out of all the stories you told me, which ones were true and which ones weren't?« Garak: »My dear doctor, they're all true.« Bashir: »Even the lies?« Garak: »Especially the lies.«

May 19 2010, 03:53 PM	#35
Mr Cool Dude Guest	Re: How do Niners feel about TNG? As a Star Trek fan, one thing I have noticed is that these so called Niners are rarely able to esteem the value of their favourite show without denegrating The Next Generation. Try asking a Niner what was so great about DS9 and they'll respond with something like: "oh yeah, it was awesome, it was dark, shades of grey, blah blah blah, and it was much better than TNG. TNG sucked - etc etc". They can never talk about DS9 without referencing TNG. I think they have some kind of complex.

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May 19 2010, 04:39 PM	#36
Jono Rear Admiral Location: Australia	Re: How do Niners feel about TNG? ^ The poll at the moment seems to indicate your impression is incorrect as the vast majority like TNG. Though if similar numbers vote in this one as they did in the Voyager thread there is still around 2/3 to go, so you might be showed to be correct in time. __________________ Those who lose dreaming are lost.

May 19 2010, 05:27 PM	#37
jadzia_dax2369 Lieutenant Junior Grade Location: Some were in the milky way...... oh crap the borg!!!	Re: How do Niners feel about TNG? hey fellow niners i like TNG but im a true NINER, i love Deep space nine- it was sooooo much darker than the others, and it was no sheep ( didnt have the borg like both Voyager and The next generation had) which personly i found to be crap. but its just me __________________ Doctor: will you relax B'Elanna : if you tell me to relax once more im going to rip your hollographic head off. Doctor: I hope your not going to kiss your child with that mouth.

May 19 2010, 07:51 PM	#38
CaseNumber825 Lieutenant Location: everywhere....nowhere...	Re: How do Niners feel about TNG? I'm kind of wavering between the option of loving both TNG and DS9 and preferring DS9. I think I'm going to have to go with preferring DS9 because, although TNG is the show that really made me emmerse myself in the Star Trek world, DS9 is the show that cemented me in the Trek world and it's the Trek show that I really obsess over.

May 19 2010, 09:49 PM	#39
Mr. Scott Commander	Re: How do Niners feel about TNG? DS9 was a much better show than TNG. Not that TNG was bad show, but the first season was almost unwatchable and really did not find its feet until the third season. I have TNG on DVD, and I skip probably 40% of the stories. I have DS9 also, and this show hit the ground running since the pilot episode. I rarely skip over any episodes. This show was good until the final episode. It never let me down. Really the only unwatchable episodes are Bashir with the retarded Augments (the mustached crazy guy, the overly sexaulized woman, the wierd old man and the girl who wouldn't talk,) and the episode where Keiko is possessed by an evil being. Another thing I really liked about DS9 that it was about family and relationships. Sisko and Jake, Nog, Rom, Quark, Moogie, and Zek, Keiko, Miles and their kids. I do hate the episode at the end of Season 7 when Sisko went away to the Prophets leaving a pregneant Kasidy and Jake alone. Made no sense and made me cry in the end. I loved the DS9 characters. TNG, except for Picard, Data, Worf and Dr. Pulaski, they all couold have been thrown out of an airlock.

May 19 2010, 10:41 PM	#40
Photon Commodore Location: Dixie	Re: How do Niners feel about TNG? S1/S2 just plain sucked S3-S6 was very good S7 just was weaker

May 20 2010, 04:51 AM	#44
-Brett- Rear Admiral	Re: How do Niners feel about TNG? Back in the 90's and early 00s I probably would have voted for option 2. Now it's more like 3.

May 20 2010, 05:00 AM	#45
Taerdok Cadet Location: St. Paul, MN	Re: How do Niners feel about TNG? I'd have to go with option 3 as my memories of TNG are rather distant and hazy -- the last time I'd seen a TNG episode would probably be 14-15 years ago and I don't recall paying that much attention to it even then.