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Old May 14 2010, 09:15 PM   #61
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Re: NBC cancels Law & Order

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You guys act like you know what's better for NBC than NBC does.

If they don't cancel a proven show that has a small but very loyal audience, where are they going to put tomorrow's hits like The Marriage Ref (produced by comedy legend Jerry Seinfeld(TM)) and a newly retooled Jay Leno Show since everyone LOVES him as the ratings clearly indicate?
I think you just melted my sarcasm meter.
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Old May 14 2010, 09:45 PM   #62
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I do agree that this series is obviously in its Swan Song, and my goodness there have been doggy seasons several years ago when it should have been axed. I do however think its wrong to boil television history down to a business decision. That's what the canceling of all these historic soaps were, too. All about business and ratings, no consideration of where a network's stock performers and crew will come from or if there will be a breeding ground for the industry-nevermind the presidence and influence shows like Guiding Light had.

Is there a drama on tv right now that will run twenty years? Much less a network show that's been on that long-except The Simpsons? I can't think of one. Most can't seem to make 10. 5 or 7 and that's usually two seasons too long. It's sad that it's about business, not making a good show and honoring a quality program of tenure and class. Survivor is not my idea of a classy program.
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Old May 14 2010, 09:53 PM   #63
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Re: NBC cancels Law & Order

This makes me a sad panda. Although, I suppose I'm not totally surprised. I had a sneaking suspicion that they might cancel the original Law & Order to make room for Law & Order: Los Angeles, especially if it's going to use the same format. Right now, I'm desperately crossing my fingers hoping for Michael Cutter to move to L.A. (and Connie Rubirosa to move to my bedroom). Also, when Rey Curtis came back for a cameo this season, he mentioned that he had moved to L.A. Perhaps he can be the new senior detective on the spin-off.

My idea for a crazy, WTF, ending for the original series: George Dzundza wakes up in the drunk tank, looking at a snow globe while cops in the background say, "Crazy idiot. There is no 27th precinct!"
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Old May 14 2010, 09:54 PM   #64
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Trying to look on the bright side... Maybe now that the show is cancelled they'll actually step it way the fuck up on the DVD releases? Show's in season 20 and we only have, what, seven seasons on DVD? Meanwhile SVU is practically day-and-date.

Oh, and just to be clear: the proper term is Doink-Doink.
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Old May 14 2010, 10:07 PM   #65
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Re: NBC cancels Law & Order

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Trying to look on the bright side... Maybe now that the show is cancelled they'll actually step it way the fuck up on the DVD releases? Show's in season 20 and we only have, what, seven seasons on DVD? Meanwhile SVU is practically day-and-date.

Oh, and just to be clear: the proper term is Doink-Doink.
First of all, it's more of a "duhng-duhnk!" There's nothing high pitched enough in there to justify an "oi."

Secondly, there are 8 seasons on DVD; Seasons 1-7 plus Season 14 from that strange little experiment in 2004 when they released the most current seasons of all 3 shows. But you're right. Universal needs to speed the fuck up on the DVDs! I needs my Jack McCoy, dammit!

I won't go quite as far as to say I'll never watch NBC ever again after this. Even in its death throes, I seem to watch it more than any other network. I never watch the CW. I only watch ABC when they have Wipeout on in the summer. (BTW, is Wipeout coming back?) I only watch CBS for The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson. FOX has interesting shows like Family Guy, The Simpsons, and the late lamented Dollhouse & Sit Down Shut Up but I seem to only catch its shows in syndicated reruns. Meanwhile, NBC has alienated me somewhat by cancelling Law & Order and firing Conan O'Brien but Saturday Night Live is still solid appointment TV, even in its rough patches.
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Old May 14 2010, 10:14 PM   #66
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Old May 14 2010, 10:22 PM   #67
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I'm no fan of Law and Order (I've never even seen an episode), but I can't believe they'd cancel the show when they're so close to breaking the record. All they need is one more season and they'd make television history. How is that not worth the expense of one more season? Making television history has got to result in good ratings.
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Old May 14 2010, 10:44 PM   #68
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Maybe NBC figured that it was enough just to tie, rather than break, the record. For number of seasons, not actual episodes in them (AFAIK, Gunsmoke has many more eps per season, and L&O would take a long time to break that).

I know, it's silly, but any network that is boneheaded enough to cancel such an excellent show as L&O is clearly not playing with a full deck anyway.
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Old May 14 2010, 10:51 PM   #69
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I know we have alot of information early, but when are the upfronts this year?
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Old May 14 2010, 10:56 PM   #70
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I know we have alot of information early, but when are the upfronts this year?
Monday, 17th May - NBC and Fox
Tuesday, 18th May - ABC
Wednesday, 19th May - CBS
Thursday, 20th May - CW

NBC is also going to release their schedule on Sunday by press release, the day before their upfront presentation.
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Old May 14 2010, 11:11 PM   #71
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I know we have alot of information early, but when are the upfronts this year?
Monday, 17th May - NBC and Fox
Tuesday, 18th May - ABC
Wednesday, 19th May - CBS
Thursday, 20th May - CW
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NBC is also going to release their schedule on Sunday by press release, the day before their upfront presentation.
that seems to take the fun out of it.
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Old May 14 2010, 11:23 PM   #72
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Oh, and just to be clear: the proper term is Doink-Doink.
First of all, it's more of a "duhng-duhnk!" There's nothing high pitched enough in there to justify an "oi."
I disagree. I definitely hear an 'oi' in there. Besides, they ran an ad a few years ago where they flat out CALLED it a doink-doink.

Secondly, there are 8 seasons on DVD; Seasons 1-7 plus Season 14 from that strange little experiment in 2004 when they released the most current seasons of all 3 shows.
Oh yeah, right, I forgot about that bit.

But you're right. Universal needs to speed the fuck up on the DVDs!
And since this is Universal we're talking about, I would probably not waste my time hoping for an actual Blu-Ray release.

That being said: What about L&O:UK? What happened to it? Has it been renewed (or whatever they do with British shows )? I heard talk that Jamie Bamber is joining another show, does this mean that the UK L&O didn't pan out?
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Old May 14 2010, 11:27 PM   #73
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Yeah NBC canceled everything besides it's "comedies", Parenthood and Chuck because they THINK their new shows are strong. Heroes, Chuck and Parenthood are the only ones renewed. What is to make them think that their new shows won't be complete shit?

As everyone else said, 13 episodes was too hard for them? Are they that fucking cheap?! When LA fails because no one gives a fuck about it and SVU ends in a season or so there will not be a single L&O on NBC. So fucking stupid!
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Old May 14 2010, 11:29 PM   #74
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I know, it's silly, but any network that is boneheaded enough to cancel such an excellent show as L&O is clearly not playing with a full deck anyway.
I love the show and I hate that it has been canceled, but not only is it prohibitively expensive to produce, its ratings this year have been utterly abysmal (it just ticked a 1.7 this past week). It is a business decision.
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Could you really call Heroes "renewed"? A six-episode mini-season is more like drawing out its agony than actually being renewed.
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