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Old May 15 2010, 03:17 AM   #91
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Re: Are you a Blu-Ray & 3D skeptic?

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They tried that once already, years ago, with 'Divx' (Digital Video Express) and that died a quick death.
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!



Tell that to anybody who downloads.
What's so funny?
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Old May 15 2010, 03:52 AM   #92
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Re: Are you a Blu-Ray & 3D skeptic?

Divx did fail, horribly.

If they have access to your player, which they do, who knows what sort of information they can extract from it?


Black Helicopter Conspiracy Nonsense.

First of all, they can't extract any infromation from your player that's not on it. Since I've yet to encounter a DVD/BD player requiring me to input my name, address, phone number, SSN, or anyother critical information I don't see how them acsessing the information on my player will mean anything other than, "Damn! This guy watches the same three episodes of MST3K a lot!"

Secondly, do you have digital cable? A cable box? A DVR cable box? If you do then your cable company is already tracking everything you watch, rent, record, save, etc.

Thridly, them having this information is hardly "bad" and is likely to result in more services and products that are benificial to you.

That your BD player's maker needs to do software updates on it from time-to-time is the most benign thing on the planet compared to some of the other shit companies, and government, pull with private information. But there's going to be no information on BD player that you've not put on it and infromation you do put on it isn't likely to be critical enough to impact ones life all that much other than maybe some more junk mail.
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Old May 15 2010, 03:56 AM   #93
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Re: Are you a Blu-Ray & 3D skeptic?

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Divx did fail, horribly.
Some of you may be too young to remember DIVX as the horribly failed Circuit City disc format and are confusing it with DIVX the movie codec:

Disc format: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DivX
Movie codec: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIVX_%2...deo_Express%29
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Old May 15 2010, 04:09 AM   #94
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IIRC, Divx was a DVD-like format that you "bought/rented."

You'd "buy" the disc for a cheaper price than the DVD but the Divx disc was only coded to work a few times, then it'd be destroyed by either the machine or just a breakdown in the data layer of the disc itself. The "idea" was that people could "rent movies" without having to bother to return the disc they could just watch those couple of times and then chuck the thing in the trash. Though I believe there was a way to "buy" the disc and make it a permanent, reusable, disc. It was a convoluted, wasteful, format that simply didn't take off but that's what we're talking about there. Not the video-download codec. It was a home-movie format that came out around the same time as DVD by Circuit City and it quickly died. Hell, it'd be generous to liken it to Betamax.
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Old May 15 2010, 04:15 AM   #95
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IIRC, Divx was a DVD-like format that you "bought/rented."
Never heard of it - and we don't have this Best Buy here either.

I was referring to the format I get to access, free of charge and burn to a disk to use on my player.

You can keep your BR, that'll do me fine, cheers!

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Old May 15 2010, 04:17 AM   #96
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^^ Yeah, I thought it was dumb at the time. When I got my first DVD player they all had Divx but I found a model that didn't but featured a little known at the time audio format called DTS. I think I won out in that case.

Who'd a thought it really was the future though. They just didn't have the delivery mechanism figured out. I'm kind of dreading the day everything goes digital download. I like it as an alternative but I don't like the thought of not ever being able to fully own a movie or game.
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Old May 15 2010, 04:18 AM   #97
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So you just burn it to a disk - some of us have been doing it for years!
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Old May 15 2010, 04:43 AM   #98
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^^ Legally?
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Old May 15 2010, 04:58 AM   #99
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A 4 GB disc is not comparable to a 50 GB. And there's no way that the studios are going to start charging you periodically to continue watching your movies just because BD players can connect to the internet.

And for those of you waiting for the next big thing to come along... as soon as that comes out, you'll just wait for the "next big thing". Enjoy your VHS tapes.

And almost all new technology comes with updates. I don't complain every time Sony wants to make my PS3 better, or every time my computer wants to help me with vulnerabilities. I couldn't imagine having to buy a new PS3 every time they wanted to do an update.
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Old May 15 2010, 05:02 AM   #100
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I'm still enjoying my CEDs.
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Old May 15 2010, 07:14 AM   #101
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I'm still enjoying my CEDs.
No shit? You actually have one of those? That's awesome. Does it sk... sk... skip?

I always wondered about the video quality of a disc that uses a stylus. Does it compare with magnetic tape (VHS/Beta) or is it better? The wiki article says this -- "video quality (approx 3 MHz of luma bandwidth for CED was comparable to a VHS-SP or Betamax-II video, but sub-par compared to Laserdisc (about 5 MHz of luma bandwidth)" -- but that doesn't really tell me anything. Does it have video "noise" like VHS/Beta?
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Old May 15 2010, 03:34 PM   #102
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No, it was a joke I was making reeople not upgrading because "something better will come along."

They look nifty, though, I'd like to have one.
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Old May 15 2010, 03:36 PM   #103
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Some of you may be too young to remember DIVX as the horribly failed Circuit City disc format and are confusing it with DIVX the movie codec:
I am well aware of the movie codec, thank you. I didn't mean that. I was indeed talking about the Circuit City disc abomination.
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Old May 15 2010, 09:42 PM   #104
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I'm still enjoying my CEDs.
No shit? You actually have one of those? That's awesome. Does it sk... sk... skip?
My uncle used to have a great CED collection. About ten years ago, a buddy and I opened the player up and got it working (replaced the broken belt with a rubber band- didn't hold long but worked well enough.)

Unfortunately, he threw his entire collection and player in the trash when he moved, not knowing that I would have loved to have it.

At least I was able to score his laserdiscs and a couple of players before he junked those. Bolstered my collection nicely.
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Old May 15 2010, 10:15 PM   #105
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A 4 GB disc is not comparable to a 50 GB. And there's no way that the studios are going to start charging you periodically to continue watching your movies just because BD players can connect to the internet.
And besides, BD players *can* connect to the net, but they don't HAVE to. You can disconnect your player (if it's net capable) and it will still work. And older players don't connect at all. So the potential for spying, if it exists at all, is minimal at best.

I only use my player's net connection to do firmware updates (which it's only needed one, since I bought it).
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