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Old May 5 2010, 05:37 PM   #91
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Re: Official Final Typhon Pact blurbs

It's not like associating Zero Sum Game with DS9 will hurt its sales though. When you think about it, it can't hurt, right? I'd be there either way because it's David Mack (I'm sure many of us would be), but to a casual treklit peruser, a cover with Ezri and Julian is probably more attractive than just a cover with a new ship no one has ever seen on screen before.
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Old May 5 2010, 05:41 PM   #92
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Fair enough in terms of copyright law, but it remains that Titan is its own series. Seems to me that it ought to be advertised as such.
Well, the goal of advertising is to attract interest and attention. TNG is a far more familiar brand than Titan, so if promoting TTN as part of TNG gets it more attention and sells more books, I don't see the problem.
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Old May 5 2010, 05:55 PM   #93
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Fair enough in terms of copyright law, but it remains that Titan is its own series. Seems to me that it ought to be advertised as such.
Well, the goal of advertising is to attract interest and attention. TNG is a far more familiar brand than Titan, so if promoting TTN as part of TNG gets it more attention and sells more books, I don't see the problem.
I think it undermines TTN's unique identity when that happens.
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Old May 5 2010, 06:15 PM   #94
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^If people are buying the books and reading them, they're aware of its unique identity from that. If they're not reading them, then it doesn't matter much what they think of its identity. So anything that helps sell more books is ultimately good for the series.

In short, the substance matters more than the label.
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Old May 6 2010, 02:15 AM   #95
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For me this is actually one of those situations were I agree with both sides. On the one hand I can see wanting to support Titan as it's own series, but at the same it did come from TNG, and it does have 3 TNG characters in the cast.
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Old May 6 2010, 02:29 AM   #96
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Hey, don't get me wrong. I think Titan should be classified as a separate series and it is my favourite series, representing the very epitome of what Star Trek is all about, exploring the galaxy and embracing the unknown.

I am looking forward to the next one and learning about a race we really haven't seen much of on screen.
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Old May 6 2010, 02:35 AM   #97
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^If people are buying the books and reading them, they're aware of its unique identity from that. If they're not reading them, then it doesn't matter much what they think of its identity. So anything that helps sell more books is ultimately good for the series.

In short, the substance matters more than the label.
Amen...amen...and amen.

Here's another thought:

Sarina Douglas...whom Bashir thinks of as his long-lost true love.
The operative word is "thinks". It would be a pretty dull, formulaic story if there wasn't personal conflict of a sort. And Mr. Mack is NOT one for dull formulaic stories.

(I know...I seriously need a life.)
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Old May 6 2010, 02:55 AM   #98
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Oh, come on do you really think if any of us had a life we would be here.
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Old May 6 2010, 03:00 AM   #99
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Booksellers actually list them under the TNG banner since Titan is actually a spin-off from TNG in terms of characters.
What booksellers where?
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Old May 6 2010, 11:37 AM   #100
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Oh, come on do you really think if any of us had a life we would be here.
...Point taken.
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Old May 6 2010, 12:45 PM   #101
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What booksellers where?
I just did an Amazon book search for Star Trek the Next Generation and found the first Titan book on page 3. Does that count?
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Old May 6 2010, 01:13 PM   #102
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^ Not really, as the search found "Star Trek: The Next Generation" in Mike Martin's bio that's displayed on the book's page (the book itself is listed as "Taking Wing (Star Trek: Titan, Book 1)."

Another example: I did a search for "Dayton Ward" and it pulls up pretty much every book where my name is mentioned in acknowledgments or in the booklist they used to have in the back of the novels. Doesn't mean I wrote all those books.
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Old May 6 2010, 05:33 PM   #103
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Every B&N and Borders I have been to the Dallas-Fort Worth area, and the bricks and mortar shops in the UK, they all have the Titan books after the TNG ones. I pointed out that they were a separate series, and the staff member (who knew what she was talking about for a change) pointed that Riker was in it and he was TNG, so it goes with TNG.

fictionwise.com also used to list Taking Wing as Star Trek: The Next Generation Taking Wing (Titan book 1), as if Titan was a TNG miniseries like the ATT series. I don't know if it still does.
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Old May 6 2010, 05:40 PM   #104
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fictionwise.com also used to list Taking Wing as Star Trek: The Next Generation Taking Wing (Titan book 1), as if Titan was a TNG miniseries like the ATT series. I don't know if it still does.
Simon & Schuster chose to stop selling titles via Fictionwise.
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Old May 6 2010, 05:52 PM   #105
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and the bricks and mortar shops in the UK, they all have the Titan books after the TNG ones.
When ever I go to a new town or see a book shop I've never been in, I go in and make a bee line for the Trek/Media tie in section, normally, they are just bundled up together.
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