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View Poll Results: Grade Iron Man 2
Excellent 60 36.36%
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Average 29 17.58%
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Old May 7 2010, 05:20 PM   #121
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The problem also was that we've already seen this sort of angle taken in Batman Forever (Edward Nygma's hero-worship of Bruce Wayne turning to enmity) and Spider-man 3 (between Peter/ Spidey and Eddir Brock/ Venom).
I don't see either of those guys as comparable to Hammer - Nygma's a nerdy scientist who feels Wayne didn't respect him (and his revenge wasn't directed at Wayne); Brock is a more traditional opposite character, Peter without his sense of responsibility.
I can see where Captaindemotion is coming from, but the movie is so good that I think it does the whole Hammer story just right.
Also, Captain demotion I must add that I didn't even know Sam Rockwell was in the movie till he came on screen! I know I'm in Taiwan but I thought I would've heard that he was in it. Weird that he wasn't in the trailers.

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Old May 7 2010, 05:33 PM   #122
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I liked the movie a lot - great fun, just like the first one.

But...As fond as I am of Sam Jackson playing Sam Jackson and Sam Rockwell playing Sam Rockwell, I would have rather seen them explore something different for their roles in this one. I know that Fury was based on the ULT Fury that was in turn based on Jackson, but still...

And more Scarlett would have been nice. And not just for the obvious reasons. Her character needed fleshing out a bit more, IMO.

But all in all - great movie!

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Old May 7 2010, 05:38 PM   #123
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I liked the movie a lot - great fun, just like the first one.

But...As fond as I am of Sam Jackson playing Sam Jackson and Sam Rockwell playing Sam Rockwell, I would have rather seen them explore something different for their roles in this one. I know that Fury was based on the ULT Fury that was in turn based on Jackson, but still...

And more Scarlett would have been nice. And not just for the obvious reasons. Her character needed fleshing out a bit more, IMO.

But all in all - great movie!

Anything with Scarlett in it needs more "flesh out."

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Old May 7 2010, 05:48 PM   #124
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I liked the movie a lot - great fun, just like the first one.

But...As fond as I am of Sam Jackson playing Sam Jackson and Sam Rockwell playing Sam Rockwell, I would have rather seen them explore something different for their roles in this one. I know that Fury was based on the ULT Fury that was in turn based on Jackson, but still...

And more Scarlett would have been nice. And not just for the obvious reasons. Her character needed fleshing out a bit more, IMO.

But all in all - great movie!

Anything with Scarlett in it needs more "flesh out."

Oh, very yes.
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Old May 7 2010, 06:18 PM   #125
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Just got back from the Iron Man 2, midnight show at the Cinerama Dome in Hollywood. It was a blast and it was a great movie. Lucky us Robert Downey and John Faveroux introduced the movie, how cool is that I shot the video and just put it up on video. sorry for the crappy video but had to use my treo to capture the event, they tend to frown on people who attend films with professional camcorders.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJvckIFl1TE




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Old May 7 2010, 06:23 PM   #126
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Just got back from the Iron Man 2, midnight show at the Cinerama Dome in Hollywood. It was a blast and it was a great movie. Lucky us Robert Downey and John Faveroux introduced the movie, how cool is that I shot the video and just put it up on video. sorry for the crappy video but had to use my treo to capture the event, they tend to frown on people who attend films with professional camcorders.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJvckIFl1TE




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I love this! I may have seen it 3 days ago, but to have it introduced by the star and the director and in Hollywood beats that easily!
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Old May 7 2010, 06:28 PM   #127
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Went to the 12:01 showing last night because I live in the States and couldn't wait any longer. I read a review this morning that complained about there being too many simultaneous plots (seven, to be exact), encumbering the film with too much weight to allow sufficient development of any of the characters. It's a common complaint with comic book movies (the X-Men movies took heat for it, and the Joel Schumacher Batman movies deserved it), and I figure it's a natural consequence of the differences inherent to the media of comics and film. It applies, but is forgivable here.

For what it's worth, I would rate my enjoyment of IM2 only slightly below that of its predecessor. The multiple plot lines were not a turn-off to me, though I agree they hampered development somewhat. My only problem with replacing Terrence Howard with Don Cheadle is a cynical expectation that, somewhere, someone will choose to see a "Y'all look alike" message and get their knickers in a twist. Johansson was delicious, Rockwell's Hammer was obsequious and oblivious (until very late), Rourke was too easily defeated (twice - though another 20-30 minutes would definitely have been overkill), and the "Ex-Wife" was hilarious. Actually, in a painful way, so is the Hammer suit-prototype seen at the Senate hearing... Probably won't see any Oscar nods, but plenty of nerdgasm to go around.
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Old May 7 2010, 06:31 PM   #128
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Went to the 12:01 showing last night because I live in the States and couldn't wait any longer. I read a review this morning that complained about there being too many simultaneous plots (seven, to be exact), encumbering the film with too much weight to allow sufficient development of any of the characters. It's a common complaint with comic book movies (the X-Men movies took heat for it, and the Joel Schumacher Batman movies deserved it), and I figure it's a natural consequence of the differences inherent to the media of comics and film. It applies, but is forgivable here.

For what it's worth, I would rate my enjoyment of IM2 only slightly below that of its predecessor. The multiple plot lines were not a turn-off to me, though I agree they hampered development somewhat. My only problem with replacing Terrence Howard with Don Cheadle is a cynical expectation that, somewhere, someone will choose to see a "Y'all look alike" message and get their knickers in a twist. Johansson was delicious, Rockwell's Hammer was obsequious and oblivious (until very late), Rourke was too easily defeated (twice - though another 20-30 minutes would definitely have been overkill), and the "Ex-Wife" was hilarious. Actually, in a painful way, so is the Hammer suit-prototype seen at the Senate hearing... Probably won't see any Oscar nods, but plenty of nerdgasm to go around.
I'd love to hear what the 7 plots were.
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Old May 7 2010, 06:36 PM   #129
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I enjoyed it. All the New Mexico references were heartily approved of by the crowd. The Twilight trailer, however, received loud boos.

I just don't get why they always have to put a license plate on the front of New Mexican cars. We don't have license plates on the front of cars. Meh. I have some friends working on Thor. Looking forward to it!
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Old May 7 2010, 06:40 PM   #130
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We don't have license plates on the front of cars.
Well, a lot of states do. Plus how else are we supposed to know where he is?
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Old May 7 2010, 06:40 PM   #131
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I enjoyed it. All the New Mexico references were heartily approved of by the crowd. The Twilight trailer, however, received loud boos.

I just don't get why they always have to put a license plate on the front of New Mexican cars. We don't have license plates on the front of cars. Meh. I have some friends working on Thor. Looking forward to it!
"Always" ? Has this happened a lot?!
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Old May 7 2010, 06:43 PM   #132
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^Yes, extremely frequently when featuring New Mexico.

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We don't have license plates on the front of cars.
Well, a lot of states do. Plus how else are we supposed to know where he is?
Because it was a New Mexico plate?
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Old May 7 2010, 06:46 PM   #133
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But we wouldn't be able to see it if it wasn't in front. Let's face it. Backing a car up into the camera is far less dramatic.
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Old May 7 2010, 06:51 PM   #134
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But we wouldn't be able to see it if it wasn't in front. Let's face it. Backing a car up into the camera is far less dramatic.
I know, but they've done it so many times where they have New Mexico plates on the front. It just makes me sad. On the other hand that might have even been New Mexico, not sure. They would almost certainly know better, so it was just for the dramatic effect but meh . I would assume so since Thor was partially filmed and set here.
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Old May 7 2010, 08:41 PM   #135
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Not sure if this has been posted or not, but here's a list of the Easter Eggs to be seen in IM2. Of course, I'm sure all you clever folks will already have spotted them yourselves:

http://chud.com/articles/articles/23...N-2/Page1.html
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