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View Poll Results: Grade Iron Man 2
Excellent 60 36.36%
Above Average 67 40.61%
Average 29 17.58%
Below Average 6 3.64%
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Old May 6 2010, 06:00 PM   #91
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To be honest, Marvel used his likeness to portray Fury as Sam Jackson.
With his expressed, written permission too.
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Old May 6 2010, 06:30 PM   #92
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who thought that the scene were Tony and Rhodey destroyed Tony's house was actually funny? Not me.
That was meant to be played for laughs?
No. It was one of many scenes that showed Tony spiralling into depression because he was dieing.

Why anyone would think it was meant to be played for laughs I dont know.
Righto, not just me that thought that was scene was meant to be serious, and not as 'humour'.
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Old May 6 2010, 07:26 PM   #93
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the only part of that scene that made me laugh was Stark telling Goldstein to play a 'phat beat' to kick his buddy's ass to (or whatever it was, something like that)
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Old May 6 2010, 08:10 PM   #94
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That whole scene was very uncomfortable. You can't just brush past Tony's alcoholism like that.
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Old May 6 2010, 08:36 PM   #95
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I thought it had to have been intended to be funny - while not actually being so - because of the general context. The 'phat beat' bit, the semi-naked girls and the general slapstick of the house being blown away. I accept that it did turn into a sort of 'look at yourself!' scene, but it was hardly a serious exploration of alcoholism - if that's how it was intended, it failed miserably. I think it was just misjudged tonally all round.

Hermiod, I cant believe you haven't been complaining about how Scarlett Johanssen kicked the collective ass of a load of bigger, heavier security guards!
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Old May 6 2010, 08:41 PM   #96
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Hermiod, I cant believe you haven't been complaining about how Scarlett Johanssen kicked the collective ass of a load of bigger, heavier security guards!
Actually, my recollection of it was that she generally avoided getting hit and used various gadgets to beat them.

But then, I didn't think it was worth mentioning. Natasha's been doing that for years in the comics, I'm used to it.

Sorry to disappoint you all.
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Old May 6 2010, 08:46 PM   #97
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^ Just messing with ya!
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Old May 6 2010, 08:55 PM   #98
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My only issue with Natasha in this movie was the fact that she didn't drop the American accent when her true identity was revealed.

I hope this wasn't some attempt to prevent the audience from being confused, what with the film having a Russian villain.
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Old May 6 2010, 08:57 PM   #99
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^I'd say it probably was. People unfamiliar with the comics would probably have assumed that there was some connection between the two and wondered why it wasn't explained.
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Old May 6 2010, 09:06 PM   #100
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Or maybe Scarlett can't do a convincing Russian accent. If that's the case, then keeping the American accent would be preferable to some of the terrible fake accents that have made it to the screen.
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Old May 6 2010, 09:18 PM   #101
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^Possibly, but I hope they aren't just sweeping her Russian background under the rug.

The accent on its own is no deal breaker, nothing about the movie was really.
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Old May 6 2010, 09:22 PM   #102
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Do we even know that Natasha should speak with a Russian accent or do we just assume so because she's Russian?

I <3 the post-credits scenes of these movies. They really do whet the appetite for the next film. Once we have a complete Iron Man, Hulk, Iron Man 2, Thor, Captain America and Avengers movie set it literally will be the greatest series of movies ever.
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Old May 6 2010, 09:31 PM   #103
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Do we even know that Natasha should speak with a Russian accent or do we just assume so because she's Russian?
I tend to assume she would because she speaks with one in the comics.
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Old May 6 2010, 09:42 PM   #104
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^ That's right! She shows Tony his badge after Happy jokes that he likes to see the badge.
I hope we all recognised the shield, I mean badge that she flashed.
I hope the character gets the spin-off film they talked about at some point, or feature her in the third Iron Man, because her character needs to fleshed out more.
YES. Unlike say, Elektra, a Black Widow movie could the big break-out movie for female heroes, and hopefully DC/Warners would take notice and finally give us Wonder Woman
Samuel L Jackson was playing Sam Jackson, not Nick Fury; he was playing for laughs, not as a badass.
Sam Jackson playing Sam Jackson is badass
I tend to assume she would because she speaks with one in the comics.
Yes, but is it stated in the comics that she speaks with a Russian accent or do we just 'read' it that way?
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Old May 6 2010, 09:46 PM   #105
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Yes, but is it stated in the comics that she speaks with a Russian accent or do we just 'read' it that way?
It depends on who is writing her but she sometimes 'speaks' with one. It's hard to explain, it's little things like saying 'Da' instead of 'Yes' for example.

Not quite the same thing as Thor 'speaking' in that weird font, though.
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