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View Poll Results: Grade Iron Man 2
Excellent 60 36.36%
Above Average 67 40.61%
Average 29 17.58%
Below Average 6 3.64%
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Old May 13 2010, 02:05 AM   #256
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Ah, no harm, no foul.

It was quite a funny little scene though.

Did you also notice Stan Lee as Larry King?
Yes, but I didn't think "Hey, he does look like Larry King" fast enough to find it hilarious.

On why Iron Man II is a good film, it's not because of the in depth characterization, or the character "arc." It has serviceable characterization. And there is a character arc, although the palladium poisoning is mixed up with the alcoholism. Frankly, the party scene emphasized that enough it seems like a quibble to me. But, Iron Man II is a good film because of what it does incontestably well, which is dialogue. There aren't many regular movies that do it this well, much less superhero movies.
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Old May 13 2010, 03:33 AM   #257
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The film in every way is about Tony Stark; his life, his problems, his psyche, his desires, his flaws. The villains are extensions of his psyche.
Not many people are going to be spending $15 per ticket over and over to see such a bland story. When the stories are fleshed out in multiple comic story arcs, its fine to show that side. It's never good to market an 'action movie' full of action yet when audiences sit down they get a completely opposite film. General audiences want the Iron-Man0suit doing scientific magics on their screens, not have Tony mope around about his mortality.
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Old May 13 2010, 03:34 AM   #258
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General audiences want the Iron-Man0suit doing scientific magics on their screens, not have Tony mope around about his mortality.
I thought there was a fair amount of both in this movie.

And anyone who spends $15 on a movie ticket needs to move somewhere cheaper.
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Old May 13 2010, 03:37 AM   #259
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I thought there was a fair amount of both in this movie.
I didn't think so, and thought it was as boring as Superman Returns.
And anyone who spends $15 on a movie ticket needs to move somewhere cheaper.
Yeah, I'd move everything I have just to watch movies in a cheap theater.
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Old May 13 2010, 03:40 AM   #260
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I thought there was a fair amount of both in this movie.
I didn't think so, and thought it was as boring as Superman Returns.
I have no interest in Superman, so I can't really compare. I just know I was never bored during Iron Man 2.


And anyone who spends $15 on a movie ticket needs to move somewhere cheaper.
Yeah, I'd move everything I have just to watch movies in a cheap theater.
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Old May 13 2010, 03:42 AM   #261
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I have no interest in Superman, so I can't really compare. I just know I was never bored during Iron Man 2.
I am not lying when I say I saw a group of 'couples' actually LEAVE and not come back during my show if IM2. My wife, who is a big RDJ and ScarJo fan was yawning several times during the movie.


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Old May 13 2010, 03:46 AM   #262
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Well, that's weird. My whole theater was completely packed, and nobody even got up to pee. I mean, I yawned a few times, but that's because it was 3am by the time movie was over.

Maybe your theater was just extra sleepy that night.
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Old May 13 2010, 04:24 AM   #263
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I am not lying when I say I saw a group of 'couples' actually LEAVE and not come back during my show if IM2.
You know, people need to stop considering their theatres as indicative of all theatres.

For instance, the theatre I was in, the majority applauded at the end.

Though, my area is known to have great taste in movies.
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Old May 13 2010, 04:43 AM   #264
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I went to the opening night at my hometown theater, and NO one left. In fact there were plenty of us who stayed for the after-credit stuff we knew was coming.
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Old May 13 2010, 11:09 AM   #265
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I went to the opening night at my hometown theater, and NO one left. In fact there were plenty of us who stayed for the after-credit stuff we knew was coming.
A bunch of people in my theater left when the credits rolled, and then they slowly filtered back inside to watch the teaser at the end.
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Old May 13 2010, 11:40 AM   #266
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At the IMAX in London everyone was advised that they should wait until after the credits. Everyone stayed.
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Old May 13 2010, 02:09 PM   #267
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Yeah, most people stayed till the end of the credits in my theater as well. This wasn't the case with the first one
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Old May 13 2010, 03:27 PM   #268
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I am not lying when I say I saw a group of 'couples' actually LEAVE and not come back during my show if IM2.
And I'm sure you know for sure they left because of the movie and not because of some un-related personal matters, right?
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Old May 13 2010, 07:15 PM   #269
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I thought the film was brilliant. Really well done. I like the fact there's very little "Iron Man action" in it. Iron Man has never really been about Iron Man, it's been about Tony Stark. Like he says in the film, Iron Man is an extension of himself. Peter Parker is Spider-Man. Bruce Wayne is Batman. But it's the other way around in this story. Iron Man is Tony Stark. Tony Stark is the larger personality. Favreau, Thoreaux and Downey Jr. all get it. It's a shame others don't.
Bingo. Unlike other superhero movies, Iron Man seems like a movie series about characters and ideas, not about having big-ass battle scenes. I don't dislike big-ass battle scenes but let's face it, they're all pretty much the same. They're good as seasoning to a strong storyline and strong character arc.

Spider-Man and X-Men have shown some signs of being about characters and ideas (X-Men in particular should have been much more about characters and ideas than those movies actually have been - I've been pretty disappointed in how they turned out, overall) and the Hulk movies with Edward Norton are following that model as well, at least the first one did and I'm hoping they keep that up. Iron Man should be the model for all superhero movies.
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Old May 13 2010, 11:05 PM   #270
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And also, the Marvel Movie universe are willing to interconnect their movies in the same world and use the same characters over again instead of just killing them all off when they feel like it (keeping Justin Hammer and Abomination alive). Like a TV show told with movies as each "episode".
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