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Old April 27 2010, 10:36 PM   #46
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Re: Arex coming to Phase II!

This is like Spock without a forked penis.
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Old April 28 2010, 12:06 AM   #47
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Re: Arex coming to Phase II!

Would it be possible to use camera angles so we can't tell if he has a third arm and leg or not? That way, everybody's happy. I realize this may be tough if it's already done, but I think it's something worth considering.
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Old April 28 2010, 03:11 AM   #48
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This is like Spock without a forked penis.
Exactly!

I'm not uncritical of any fan production simply because it's a fan film, though I tend to keep my criticisms of this genre - and just about no other - off-line. That said, I don't think I can feel disappointed when a bunch of talented people deliver on something that would have been abso-fucking-lutely impossible for Hollywood professionals to do well a decade ago, and offer it to us for free and for fun, just because it's not served up with a side of onion rings and the brand of hot sauce that I personally prefer.
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Old April 28 2010, 08:09 AM   #49
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Re: Arex coming to Phase II!

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That said, I don't think I can feel disappointed when a bunch of talented people deliver on something that would have been abso-fucking-lutely impossible for Hollywood professionals to do well a decade ago, and offer it to us for free and for fun, just because it's not served up with a side of onion rings and the brand of hot sauce that I personally prefer.
Perfectly true. All the more so because the quality of the CGI Arex is really quite amazing. Given that he looks like a dude in makeup, though, the removal of his extra limbs is odd, insofar as it means they went to a lot of trouble to computer-generate a character they could have done practically.
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Old April 28 2010, 02:50 PM   #50
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Re: Arex coming to Phase II!

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That said, I don't think I can feel disappointed when a bunch of talented people deliver on something that would have been abso-fucking-lutely impossible for Hollywood professionals to do well a decade ago, and offer it to us for free and for fun, just because it's not served up with a side of onion rings and the brand of hot sauce that I personally prefer.
Perfectly true. All the more so because the quality of the CGI Arex is really quite amazing. Given that he looks like a dude in makeup, though, the removal of his extra limbs is odd, insofar as it means they went to a lot of trouble to computer-generate a character they could have done practically.
I believe the gameplan (since adding Arex was kind of a last minute decision) is to graft him onto some already-shot footage of Xon or Chekov or someone sitting at Navigation. It's hard enough to graft a new Edosian head onto someone--especially when we had never filmed that person orginally with any thought to the notion that he would be digitally replaced. So we may or may not decide to go through the additional headache of also grafting on an extra arm (if the shot is wide enough that we actually see arms). This whole thing is mostly a bit of a fun experiment. I'm not sure we'll try to go all-out for our first CGI character effort.
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Old April 28 2010, 06:36 PM   #51
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Re: Arex coming to Phase II!

I wish I wasn't already working on my own project. I think I could build a pretty convincing Arex rod puppet that would keep the third arm and the original proportions. The drawback would be that he'd only exist from the waste up, but I think that's the way they would have done it in the 60s.

I'll have to see if I can find a screen grab, but there was an alien in Star Trek IV that I always thought was rather Arex-like.
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Old April 28 2010, 06:46 PM   #52
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I found the guy I was thinking of -- he's in the top row of the seats on the right. It's definitely not Arex, but I could see him being achieved in a similar way.

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a.../tvhhd2184.jpg
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Old April 28 2010, 08:00 PM   #53
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I always thought Arex could work brilliantly as a puppet, akin to Pilot from Farscape or Thor from Stargate SG1.

I loved those background aliens in STIV (including a Caitian!). A very colourful bunch. It's a shame TNG, DS9 and Voyager (with the exception of 8472) rarely strayed from the "useless forehead bumps" aliens.
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Old April 29 2010, 01:52 PM   #54
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JJA Trek, which makes smart people sick to their stomachs.
Huh? I'm a "smart people" and JJ's movie was my best cinema experience since ST:TMP in 1979. Neither made me sick to my stomach. Sorry to disappoint you.
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Old April 29 2010, 02:02 PM   #55
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I'll have to see if I can find a screen grab, but there was an alien in Star Trek IV that I always thought was rather Arex-like.
There were three ST IV aliens reminiscent of Arex:

http://www.reocities.com/therinofandor/UFP2.html

Check out the Ariolan, Bzzit Khaht and the Kasheetan.

http://www.reocities.com/therinofandor/ufp/Ariolan.jpg
http://www.reocities.com/therinofandor/ufp/BzzitK.jpg
http://www.reocities.com/therinofand.../Kasheetan.jpg

I found the guy I was thinking of -- he's in the top row of the seats on the right.
Yeah, that's the Kasheetan. Incidentally, the Bzzit Khaht was a puppet! Simply a mask on a stick, draped in fabric - no arms were added to the costume, which was sold at auction by "It's a Wrap!" And the FASA "ST IV Sourcebook Update" proposed four legs each in drawings of the horse-like Ariolans.
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Old April 29 2010, 04:59 PM   #56
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Actually, this was the guy I was thinking of when I made the original post! But I thought I had misremembered it when I found the alien I posted in the follow-up! I had that FASA sourcebook back in the day (and still have it in my garage), so that probably stuck in my mind.

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Old January 23 2011, 02:29 AM   #57
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Re: Arex coming to Phase II!

For those who are interested, James Cawley posted a brief (yes, it's two seconds long) clip of our CGI Lieutenant Arex over on his Facebook page. (All the usual "this is still a work in progress" caveats apply--and, yes, we'll do the third arm on Arex, too.)

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1572958133785
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Old January 23 2011, 04:15 AM   #58
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what about the 3rd leg?
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Old January 23 2011, 04:32 AM   #59
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what about the 3rd leg?
Yes, for all those scenes we have of Arex dancing and climbing up the Jefferies tube instead of sitting behind a console, we'll show his third leg.
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Old January 23 2011, 09:42 AM   #60
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and, yes, we'll do the third arm on Arex, too.
Oh cool! I recall you weren't planning to do that originally.
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