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Old April 22 2010, 12:19 AM   #1
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Porthos

I just watched the newest addition to the Star Trek franchise since becoming a Trekker. I noticed that Scotty says "So I
tested it on Admiral Archer's prize beagle."

First of all this is not very canon because Porthos would be long dead by then without some kind of technology that would allow dogs to have the life span of a human. The first time I watched the movie it registered no thought but now I am very sad that Porthos had his life ended in such a way, if indeed it is referring to Porthos. It also seems out of character for Captain Archer to volunteer Porthos or any other dog he had a strong emotional bond with for such an experiment. Why not use a Klingon or Travis.

I just wanted to gather everyone's thoughts on this. And lets have a moment of silence for the cutest little guy on the whole Enterprise series. Sorry if this thread is lame or has been done before.
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Old April 22 2010, 12:43 AM   #2
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Re: Porthos

It was an in-joke for fans who had seen "Broken Bow". Travis says to Malcolm, when beaming up cargo that Archer "Wouldn't even put his dog though this thing".
He shouldn't have changed his mind!

But actually I got the vibe from the film that Scotty did it without Archer's permission.


I'd assume the dog in STXI is Porthos XXIV (or whatever), but you could always say that alien liver transplant from "A Night in Sickbay" gave him alien lizard super life expectancy

(Also "not very canon" is wrong. If it's on TV or film Trek it's 100% canon whether it makes sense or not!)
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Old April 22 2010, 01:35 AM   #3
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Yeah, I always figured the beagle that went through Scotty's experimental transporter was a long-way-down-the road successor of Porthos, perhaps even a descendant.
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Old April 22 2010, 02:30 AM   #4
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KingDaniel wrote: View Post
(Also "not very canon" is wrong. If it's on TV or film Trek it's 100% canon whether it makes sense or not!)
I suppose I have misinterpreted the meaning of the word then.
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Old April 22 2010, 03:09 AM   #5
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Charles Tucker wrote: View Post
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(Also "not very canon" is wrong. If it's on TV or film Trek it's 100% canon whether it makes sense or not!)
I suppose I have misinterpreted the meaning of the word then.
Actually, some people think it's Paramount that has misinterpreted the word.
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Old April 22 2010, 03:21 AM   #6
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(Also "not very canon" is wrong. If it's on TV or film Trek it's 100% canon whether it makes sense or not!)
I suppose I have misinterpreted the meaning of the word then.
To make a long story short, only the Catholic Church can decide what's canon in Star Trek.

Wait, no, that's not right. But there is Every Fan's Canon Primer.
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Old April 22 2010, 06:12 AM   #7
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Re: Porthos

Returning to the subject of Porthos... if you read Alan Dean Foster's novelization of Trek XI,
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Old April 22 2010, 07:04 AM   #8
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Personally, I think Portho's was a secret Borg drone who had been disconnected from the hive mind. His nano probes simply regenerated his beagle cells his entire life. That's why he was able to live for all these years for so long.

At least that's my 2 cents worth, anyways.
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Old April 22 2010, 08:05 AM   #9
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A Borg Beagle? I'd rather see a Borg tribble. I's like to see Star Trek XII begin with Porthos Jr. rematerializing.
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Old April 22 2010, 09:41 AM   #10
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I was wondering if Archer's dog was going to get a mention in Alan Dean Foster's Star Trek sequel novel, Refugees. Then the bastards cancelled it

Could you imagine trying to catch a dog in that engineering section?

Keenser vs. Porthos. It's on!
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Old April 22 2010, 10:11 AM   #11
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^ Insert "Yakety Sax".
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Old April 23 2010, 01:56 AM   #12
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People who own dogs often get another once their current one dies. Someone once said, "Life is a series of dogs."
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Old April 23 2010, 02:57 AM   #13
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A Borg Beagle? I'd rather see a Borg tribble. I's like to see Star Trek XII begin with Porthos Jr. rematerializing.
A "borgle"? Is that like a puggle?
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Old April 23 2010, 03:02 AM   #14
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Old April 23 2010, 03:17 AM   #15
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JoeFromEarth wrote: View Post
Someone once said, "Life is a series of dogs."
George Carlin, in fact.
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