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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old April 18 2010, 03:12 PM   #16
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Re: TWOK on Bluray FX question

^Um...they're like the links posted above?
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Old April 18 2010, 05:12 PM   #17
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Re: TWOK on Bluray FX question

Maybe the people responsible only heard the word blu. In any event the new version looks like Enterprise is leaving the moon. I can see Paramount's official response already:

Oops.
We'll fix that right up and have it on the shelves by Christmas.
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Old April 19 2010, 04:14 PM   #18
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Re: TWOK on Bluray FX question

Well the rest of the film looks great, the live action stuff looks very sharp, and the shift toward the cooler white balance isn't that upsetting, some might even like it. But these FX shots just look like crap, and it's a shame.
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Old April 21 2010, 09:19 PM   #19
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Re: TWOK on Bluray FX question

Which ones? I like the FXs of TWOK. I think they holdup quite well..

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Old April 22 2010, 03:49 PM   #20
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Rob, sorry i wasn't talking about the FX themselves, but the bluray transfer of them that I showed earlier.
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Old April 26 2010, 11:37 PM   #21
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Re: TWOK on Bluray FX question

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Wow they really fucked that up!
Are the phasers blue now, too?
No, but Shatner's toupee is.
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Old October 2 2010, 05:54 PM   #22
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Well the rest of the film looks great, the live action stuff looks very sharp, and the shift toward the cooler white balance isn't that upsetting, some might even like it. But these FX shots just look like crap, and it's a shame.
Agreed. I had to put in the blu-ray to see if it was true, and you're right. I had never noticed it! I mean, I can still easily enjoy the movie, but I was surprised to find that whole section went unnoticed by me. The rest of the film does look terrific, so I can let this slide because I just enjoy the whole movie. Well, that, and I gave away my DVDs a long time ago.
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Old October 5 2010, 01:05 PM   #23
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Re: TWOK on Bluray FX question

Some comparison shots here:
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRe...gy_blu-ray.htm

I can't speak to the fx shots, but the live action screenshots show a much more realistic and pleasing color palette to my eye. Look at Spock's jacket, for example, in the Engineering shot. The blu ray reveals the accurate slightly marroon shade of the uniforms. By comparison, the DVD looks like a tv with the color cranked up. And the bridge shot, the bridge walls are restored to a proper neutral grey balanceas well.
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Old October 6 2010, 12:52 AM   #24
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Re: TWOK on Bluray FX question

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Some comparison shots here:
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRe...gy_blu-ray.htm

I can't speak to the fx shots, but the live action screenshots show a much more realistic and pleasing color palette to my eye. Look at Spock's jacket, for example, in the Engineering shot. The blu ray reveals the accurate slightly marroon shade of the uniforms. By comparison, the DVD looks like a tv with the color cranked up. And the bridge shot, the bridge walls are restored to a proper neutral grey balanceas well.

Isn't there something going on with digital scrubbing or DNR on these blu-rays? Especially Trek III & IV. The picture seems really off, like it was sliced out and pasted on top. I noticed this when I played them too, but it's clear in these photos.
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Old October 6 2010, 08:23 PM   #25
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Re: TWOK on Bluray FX question

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Some comparison shots here:
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRe...gy_blu-ray.htm

I can't speak to the fx shots, but the live action screenshots show a much more realistic and pleasing color palette to my eye. Look at Spock's jacket, for example, in the Engineering shot. The blu ray reveals the accurate slightly marroon shade of the uniforms. By comparison, the DVD looks like a tv with the color cranked up. And the bridge shot, the bridge walls are restored to a proper neutral grey balanceas well.

Isn't there something going on with digital scrubbing or DNR on these blu-rays? Especially Trek III & IV. The picture seems really off, like it was sliced out and pasted on top. I noticed this when I played them too, but it's clear in these photos.
They used old 1080i transfers that had been designed to be downrezzed for DVD or shown on HDTV. Part of creating those transfers probably involved scrubbing the detail.

Most people think that, if they took the time and resources to do new 1080p transfers from the masters, they would've looked much better on BD. I agree, but I still think the BDs looked much better than the DVDs, and I enjoy them.

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Old October 8 2010, 03:58 PM   #26
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Re: TWOK on Bluray FX question

Regarding the bluer space scenes, it now looks very cold in space, a good place for revenge.
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Old October 12 2010, 04:15 AM   #27
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Re: TWOK on Bluray FX question

Ryann866 wrote: View Post
Arlo wrote: View Post
Some comparison shots here:
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRe...gy_blu-ray.htm

I can't speak to the fx shots, but the live action screenshots show a much more realistic and pleasing color palette to my eye. Look at Spock's jacket, for example, in the Engineering shot. The blu ray reveals the accurate slightly marroon shade of the uniforms. By comparison, the DVD looks like a tv with the color cranked up. And the bridge shot, the bridge walls are restored to a proper neutral grey balanceas well.

Isn't there something going on with digital scrubbing or DNR on these blu-rays? Especially Trek III & IV. The picture seems really off, like it was sliced out and pasted on top. I noticed this when I played them too, but it's clear in these photos.
Those photos look INCREDIBLE. Those alone convinced me to get the Blu-ray discs. The DVD pics look awful incomparison.
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Old October 12 2010, 05:21 AM   #28
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Re: TWOK on Bluray FX question

Still both space shots look wrong, the first one has a mighty red shift and the blu-ray one has a strong blue shit aswel
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Old October 12 2010, 07:59 PM   #29
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Re: TWOK on Bluray FX question

Destructor wrote: View Post
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Arlo wrote: View Post
Some comparison shots here:
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRe...gy_blu-ray.htm

I can't speak to the fx shots, but the live action screenshots show a much more realistic and pleasing color palette to my eye. Look at Spock's jacket, for example, in the Engineering shot. The blu ray reveals the accurate slightly marroon shade of the uniforms. By comparison, the DVD looks like a tv with the color cranked up. And the bridge shot, the bridge walls are restored to a proper neutral grey balanceas well.

Isn't there something going on with digital scrubbing or DNR on these blu-rays? Especially Trek III & IV. The picture seems really off, like it was sliced out and pasted on top. I noticed this when I played them too, but it's clear in these photos.
Those photos look INCREDIBLE. Those alone convinced me to get the Blu-ray discs. The DVD pics look awful incomparison.
Hm. In the final shot from TVH, when the crew is on their way to the soon-to-be-revealed Enterprise A, Captain Kirk is still wearing admiral's piping on his tunic.

Never noticed that before.
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Old January 10 2011, 07:26 PM   #30
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The blu ray format does tend to represent colour more accurately than either DVD or video tape and to me the Wrath of Khan blu ray has perfectly balanced colour reproduction and looks much closer to a 35mm print of TWOK I saw several years ago than any previous home video release.

For some reason there's often a distinct red push on DVD and TWOK suffered from this more than most - to my eyes looked far too warm on the DVD releases. The blu ray reminded me just what a colourful film this really is.
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