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Old March 30 2010, 02:02 AM   #1
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Bogus Books Based on Wiki Searches

I know that a number of the folks here have done work on various Wikipedias so I thought this might be of interest, or rather, outrage.

These folks have decided to create Babylon 5 'books' based on Wikipedia searches.

And some from Star Trek searches.

A few about Stargate.

And so on. Just searching on one of the 'editors' names came up with over 18,000 results.

For *only* $40-$60 bucks each!

At first I pointed and laughed at the idea of books being created from searches but now Amazon has started emailing people who've bought B5 related books to push these things and it occurs to me that since they're supposed to be in stock and shipped from Amazon, it's likely that they're being printed by Amazon's POD arm.

This makes me sick, really. While I realize that it's probably perfectly within Wikipedia's Terms of Use (as far as I can see it is, even making a profit from that material), it's still a travesty.

The only thing I can think to do is post negative reviews on all of the B5 books and I invite anybody else who doesn't like the idea of these leeches profiting from the work of others to do the same.

Anybody care to join me?

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Old April 1 2010, 04:12 PM   #2
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Re: Bogus Books Based on Wiki Searches

I don't entirely understand. So these are just books of Wikipedia articles selling for $40 each? If so, that's absolutely appalling.
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Old April 1 2010, 05:09 PM   #3
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Re: Bogus Books Based on Wiki Searches

As far as I can tell, that's exactly what it is.

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Old April 1 2010, 05:28 PM   #4
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Re: Bogus Books Based on Wiki Searches

Contact Amazon. Maybe they can't legally remove these guys, but you at least might find someone willing to pull them from the recommendation engine.
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Old April 1 2010, 05:58 PM   #5
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Re: Bogus Books Based on Wiki Searches

Anybody have a reliable way of contacting a non-drone at Amazon?

Although I'm pretty sure that it's Amazon's print-on-demand branch that's printing them if there's an order. How else could they be 'in stock' when the Betascript and Alphascript promises 'up-to-the-minute' searches?

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Old April 1 2010, 06:07 PM   #6
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There's an entry for Amazon at GetHuman.
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Old April 1 2010, 06:18 PM   #7
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Hey, if they can make money tricking people into buying something called Babylon 5 Episodes Characters Sheridan Valen ISN Deathwalker... whatever.
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Old April 1 2010, 07:05 PM   #8
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Re: Bogus Books Based on Wiki Searches

Some stuff here:
http://clicheideas.com/amazon.htm

I tried searching for "Amazon.com Complaint Department", but only came up with this:
http://www.amazon.com/Complaint-Depa.../dp/B000PBYMAI
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Old April 1 2010, 11:05 PM   #9
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Thanks for taking the trouble, Lindley!

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Old April 2 2010, 06:33 AM   #10
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I actually have heard about this a few months ago, I cannot remember where I read it...but it's apparently so bad, that aside from some of the titles matching the Wikipedia pages, that the pages are literately still formatted in the wiki style of text format (with links, sidebars, dividers, etc...). In some instances, the various tabs and navigational bars are printed off to.

Pretty moronic.
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Old April 2 2010, 06:44 AM   #11
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Re: Bogus Books Based on Wiki Searches

Lindley wrote: View Post
Contact Amazon. Maybe they can't legally remove these guys
Why not? Doesn't Amazon have control over what they list for sale? And if a book like this is obviously a ripoff, can't something be done about it?
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Old April 2 2010, 07:02 AM   #12
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This extends to more than B5 or Science Fiction, there is also a bunch of non-fiction books on amazon that consists nothing of copied wiki articles.
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Old April 2 2010, 07:05 AM   #13
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Re: Bogus Books Based on Wiki Searches

Some of these books even appear to have a notice on the cover that *says* it's taken from Wikipedia! What kind of dumbshit would actually fall for this?
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Old April 2 2010, 01:23 PM   #14
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Re: Bogus Books Based on Wiki Searches

Mr. Laser Beam wrote: View Post
Doesn't Amazon have control over what they list for sale? And if a book like this is obviously a ripoff, can't something be done about it?
More importantly, why would Amazon want to do something about it? They're not losing anything significant in hosting costs by listing them, and it's not like they're taking up space in a warehouse...
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Old April 2 2010, 01:28 PM   #15
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Wait, if they are now publishing books based on Wiki articles, does that mean I can now cite Wiki as a book source in research papers?

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