RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 142,321
Posts: 5,555,201
Members: 25,274
Currently online: 457
Newest member: zia tiger

TrekToday headlines

New Shatner Priceline Commercial
By: T'Bonz on Jan 29

Pine Joins Netflix Series
By: T'Bonz on Jan 29

Ortiz Art Mugs
By: T'Bonz on Jan 28

Ingham Passes
By: T'Bonz on Jan 28

Star Trek Online Celebrates Five Years
By: T'Bonz on Jan 27

WizKids/Star Trek Online Caption Contest
By: T'Bonz on Jan 26

No Quinto In Heroes Reborn
By: T'Bonz on Jan 26

Pine Responds To Pegg Writer Announcement
By: T'Bonz on Jan 26

Retro Review: Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges
By: Michelle on Jan 24

Urban in Aquaman?
By: T'Bonz on Jan 23


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Entertainment & Interests > Science and Technology

Science and Technology "Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known." - Carl Sagan.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old April 6 2010, 06:49 PM   #1
Nomad V
Fleet Captain
 
Nomad V's Avatar
 
Location: Katy, Texas, USA
Net Neutrality Suffer Setback in DC Court

The FCC was beaten back by Comcast on the Net Neutrality issue. Basically the court said that the FCC went beyond their rights in telling Comcast and other carriers that they cannot limit band width (?) to sites like YouTube or use programs like Bit Torrent to get movies. This might come back to bite them on their aquisition of NBC. It looks like Congress might have to get involved, but I have no faith on their ability to make a Net Neutral decision. Here is the link to the NY Times article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/07/te.../07net.html?hp

What do you all think? I think that net neutrality is a good idea.
__________________
Some people are so far behind in their thinking that the future is gone before they get there.
Nomad V is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 6 2010, 06:53 PM   #2
Awesome Possum
Mad With Power
 
Awesome Possum's Avatar
 
Location: Awesome Possum Land
View Awesome Possum's Twitter Profile Send a message via ICQ to Awesome Possum Send a message via AIM to Awesome Possum
Re: Net Neutrality Suffer Setback in DC Court

Net Neutrality is a great idea if you like the internet the way it is right now. But it looks like those days are numbered.
Awesome Possum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 6 2010, 06:55 PM   #3
Nomad V
Fleet Captain
 
Nomad V's Avatar
 
Location: Katy, Texas, USA
Re: Net Neutrality Suffer Setback in DC Court

Awesome Possum wrote: View Post
Net Neutrality is a great idea if you like the internet the way it is right now. But it looks like those days are numbered.
I do like it the way it is, but I agree that "these" days may be numbered. I wonder how other countries handle it.
__________________
Some people are so far behind in their thinking that the future is gone before they get there.
Nomad V is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 6 2010, 07:03 PM   #4
Arrqh
Vice Admiral
 
View Arrqh's Twitter Profile
Re: Net Neutrality Suffer Setback in DC Court

It's not so much that this is a setback as it is making it more clear where net neutrality has to come from... which is, in this case, congress. The courts are correct, the FCC doesn't have the power to enforce things on Comcast in this way but they should and that can be addressed with legislation.
__________________
Don't you know? The chances of a random object being a scone are about one in six.
Arrqh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 6 2010, 07:35 PM   #5
Robert Maxwell
Original Recipe
 
Location: Urf
View Robert Maxwell's Twitter Profile Send a message via ICQ to Robert Maxwell Send a message via AIM to Robert Maxwell Send a message via Windows Live Messenger to Robert Maxwell Send a message via Yahoo to Robert Maxwell
Re: Net Neutrality Suffer Setback in DC Court

Arrqh wrote: View Post
It's not so much that this is a setback as it is making it more clear where net neutrality has to come from... which is, in this case, congress. The courts are correct, the FCC doesn't have the power to enforce things on Comcast in this way but they should and that can be addressed with legislation.
Exactly. The law needs to be set down without ambiguity, that all packets must be treated equally regardless of their originating network or destination. Change routing priority based on the required priority of the application, but things like traffic shaping--throttling certain protocols--is against the very notion of network neutrality. Internet usage patterns should not be socially engineered by ISPs.
__________________
I has a blag.
Robert Maxwell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 6 2010, 07:37 PM   #6
Data Holmes
Admiral
 
Data Holmes's Avatar
 
Location: Thank you for smoking!
Re: Net Neutrality Suffer Setback in DC Court

Why isn't this somehow covered under the first amendment?
__________________
Nick Naylor: My job requires a certain... moral flexibility.
Data Holmes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 6 2010, 07:42 PM   #7
Robert Maxwell
Original Recipe
 
Location: Urf
View Robert Maxwell's Twitter Profile Send a message via ICQ to Robert Maxwell Send a message via AIM to Robert Maxwell Send a message via Windows Live Messenger to Robert Maxwell Send a message via Yahoo to Robert Maxwell
Re: Net Neutrality Suffer Setback in DC Court

The First Amendment only restrains the government, not corporations.
__________________
I has a blag.
Robert Maxwell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 6 2010, 07:48 PM   #8
Awesome Possum
Mad With Power
 
Awesome Possum's Avatar
 
Location: Awesome Possum Land
View Awesome Possum's Twitter Profile Send a message via ICQ to Awesome Possum Send a message via AIM to Awesome Possum
Re: Net Neutrality Suffer Setback in DC Court

Nomad V wrote: View Post
Awesome Possum wrote: View Post
Net Neutrality is a great idea if you like the internet the way it is right now. But it looks like those days are numbered.
I do like it the way it is, but I agree that "these" days may be numbered. I wonder how other countries handle it.
Most just have far higher bandwidth than we do. The US is like 16th or 17th on the list for internet speeds.
Awesome Possum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 6 2010, 07:57 PM   #9
Robert Maxwell
Original Recipe
 
Location: Urf
View Robert Maxwell's Twitter Profile Send a message via ICQ to Robert Maxwell Send a message via AIM to Robert Maxwell Send a message via Windows Live Messenger to Robert Maxwell Send a message via Yahoo to Robert Maxwell
Re: Net Neutrality Suffer Setback in DC Court

Awesome Possum wrote: View Post
Nomad V wrote: View Post
Awesome Possum wrote: View Post
Net Neutrality is a great idea if you like the internet the way it is right now. But it looks like those days are numbered.
I do like it the way it is, but I agree that "these" days may be numbered. I wonder how other countries handle it.
Most just have far higher bandwidth than we do. The US is like 16th or 17th on the list for internet speeds.
That's mostly because our population is so spread out. It's easy to get ridiculously high speeds when your population is very dense, like it is in Japan.
__________________
I has a blag.
Robert Maxwell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 6 2010, 08:09 PM   #10
Arrqh
Vice Admiral
 
View Arrqh's Twitter Profile
Re: Net Neutrality Suffer Setback in DC Court

Robert Maxwell wrote: View Post
Awesome Possum wrote: View Post
Nomad V wrote: View Post

I do like it the way it is, but I agree that "these" days may be numbered. I wonder how other countries handle it.
Most just have far higher bandwidth than we do. The US is like 16th or 17th on the list for internet speeds.
That's mostly because our population is so spread out. It's easy to get ridiculously high speeds when your population is very dense, like it is in Japan.
True, but even then there's a lot of controversy with telcos only stringing fiber down "select" neighborhoods.
__________________
Don't you know? The chances of a random object being a scone are about one in six.
Arrqh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 7 2010, 12:17 AM   #11
Stone_Cold_Sisko
Vice Admiral
 
Re: Net Neutrality Suffer Setback in DC Court

Tiered Internet, here we come!
Stone_Cold_Sisko is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 7 2010, 01:47 AM   #12
CuttingEdge100
Commodore
 
CuttingEdge100's Avatar
 
Re: Net Neutrality Suffer Setback in DC Court

I think that net neutrality is a good idea
CuttingEdge100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 7 2010, 02:22 AM   #13
Awesome Possum
Mad With Power
 
Awesome Possum's Avatar
 
Location: Awesome Possum Land
View Awesome Possum's Twitter Profile Send a message via ICQ to Awesome Possum Send a message via AIM to Awesome Possum
Re: Net Neutrality Suffer Setback in DC Court

CuttingEdge100 wrote: View Post
I think that net neutrality is a good idea
Only those who either completely support the companies over themselves or don't know what they are talking about don't.
Awesome Possum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 7 2010, 04:32 AM   #14
Data Holmes
Admiral
 
Data Holmes's Avatar
 
Location: Thank you for smoking!
Re: Net Neutrality Suffer Setback in DC Court

Robert Maxwell wrote: View Post
The First Amendment only restrains the government, not corporations.
See, I don't agree with that. Corporations are artificial constructs which do not exist "in nature" created by the government. I think that as such any rules which are passed limiting the government interference in our rights should genetically carry over to the government's creations.
__________________
Nick Naylor: My job requires a certain... moral flexibility.
Data Holmes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 7 2010, 04:49 AM   #15
Mr. Laser Beam
Fleet Admiral
 
Mr. Laser Beam's Avatar
 
Location: The visitor's bullpen
View Mr. Laser Beam's Twitter Profile
Re: Net Neutrality Suffer Setback in DC Court

The government does not create all corporations.
__________________
"A hot dog at the ballpark is better than a steak at the Ritz." - Humphrey Bogart
Mr. Laser Beam is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:44 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.