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Old April 10 2010, 01:22 AM   #1
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StarWars: The Clone Wars 2x18 The Zillo Beast



StarWars: The Clone Wars 2x18 The Zillo Beast

Morale: "Choose what is right, not what is easy."

Synopsis: The Republic's new super-weapon awakens the fearsome Zillo Beast of Malastare. Now the Jedi must devise a way to contain the deadly creature.

This episode airs Friday April 9, 2010 on Cartoon Network at 9pm.
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Old April 10 2010, 02:31 AM   #2
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Above Average. I liked the Godzilla homage. I recall in Godzilla that there was a character who said they shouldn't kill Godzilla but study him. My thought was always "Where the hell are you going to put him? The Grand Canyon?!" I'll stand by that comment here.
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Old April 10 2010, 02:55 AM   #3
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Re: StarWars: The Clone Wars 2x18 The Zillo Beast

Average episode IMHO. Season 2 hit a high point with Mandalore stories but it's been pretty ho-hum since (although I missed "Senate Murders" so maybe that was good) but last week's and this one were pretty.........meh. I see next week is a continuation of the storyline with the Zillo Beast on Coruscant. I'm sorry but I can't fathom how somebody as smart and astute as Palpatine would be crazy enough to bring the Zillo Beast to........CORUSCANT!!!! That's just asking for trouble! WTF is he thinking and why in the hell would the Jedi just stand by and be o.k. with that? O.k., I get that Palpatine is the CIC but I mean, c'mon!!!! I don't think that Mace wanted to save the Zillo Beast just to bring it back to Coruscant. I'm sorry, that is completely boneheaded!

Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing what happens with (young) Boba Fett in a couple of weeks.
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Old April 10 2010, 03:37 AM   #4
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I really enjoyed this episode. Nice war story opening, nice gignormous monster, they really established the sense of massive scale well with him, had a moral dilemma in there as well. I just wish they showed more of Mace's loathing for Anakin which I guess is something more in the novels.
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Old April 10 2010, 03:57 AM   #5
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Star Wars: Attack of the Cloverfield!

The Duggs were amusing, partly because Sebulba may be more typical of his species than we might had realized.

Poor R2, having to save himself and Anakin.

Stupid Republic killing its own men with that bomb.
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Old April 10 2010, 05:34 AM   #6
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I really enjoyed this episode. Nice war story opening, nice gignormous monster, they really established the sense of massive scale well with him, had a moral dilemma in there as well. I just wish they showed more of Mace's loathing for Anakin which I guess is something more in the novels.
I didn't get the impression that there was a lot of friendliness between Anakin and Mace, particularly when Palpatine took Anakin's side on the issue of what to do with the Zillo Beast in order to get the treaty signed though that might have been more Mace's loathing of Palpatine (which was VERY evident in EP III).
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Old April 10 2010, 08:17 AM   #7
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I've missed so much this season...I haven't watched since the premier. Going to have to catch up when the DVD comes out.
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Old April 10 2010, 09:38 AM   #8
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Above Average. I liked the Godzilla homage. I recall in Godzilla that there was a character who said they shouldn't kill Godzilla but study him. My thought was always "Where the hell are you going to put him? The Grand Canyon?!" I'll stand by that comment here.
Looking at the preview for next week's episode, we've got some King Kong coming, too.
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Old April 10 2010, 03:27 PM   #9
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Kind of odd to see this series suddenly turning from a war story into a kaiju story. Doing it for one episode is okay, but doing an arc this close to the season finale? It's an odd tangent to go off on. And I agree, bringing the monster to Coruscant is an insanely bad idea. It's just as bad as Voyager constantly studying unknown, potentially dangerous alien devices just a few meters away from the warp core. Haven't these people ever heard of quarantine? Surely the Republic has isolated bases for studying dangerous things -- uninhabited moons, space stations, things like that.

The designs here were interesting. The Zillo had an intriguing design with the flat, sinuous limbs and body, plus the third arm on the back, though I have trouble believing those non-rigid limbs could have the strength to support such a great mass, and the back is an oddly impractical place for an extra limb. And the Dugs' design was clever with the inversion of arms and legs -- kind of expanding on the idea of those UFO aliens in the Energizer Bunny commercial -- but I don't really see how a species could evolve that way, adapting its hind limbs for grasping instead of its forelimbs. Although, hmm, given that all four limbs ended in hands, I guess they could be descended from arboreal creatures that used their feet for grabbing fruit, leaves, etc. while hanging from branches, something like that. It's still an awkward design, as seen when they walked.

And "Dugs" is an unfortunate name for the species, seeing as how it's a term for the mammary glands of animals with more than one pair thereof, as well as being an archaic slang term for human breasts.

Audio homages: The Zillo's roars were based on the Godzilla roar sound effect, and the Clone trooper who screamed when the Zillo's foot crushed him must've been named Wilhelm.

But the whole story was a Godzilla homage, right down to the sleeping beast being awakened by a weapon of mass destruction.

And in response to Spiff: While the folly of bringing the subdued beast to the heart of civilization is a very Carl Denham-ish move, I think that next week's episode has cast Coruscant in the role of Tokyo rather than New York.
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Old April 10 2010, 04:12 PM   #10
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I thought the preservation message seemed a bit odd given we haven't seen a whole lot of that throughout the movies and series.

I liked seeing the Dugs (and hell, if they have birds called tits and boobies why not dugs?). Their inverted legs and arms is interesting visually. I guess Sebulba never took Basic Language while he was in school.

It was also good to see Anakin and Mace, the series has really been mixing up the character pairings. I think it does help somewhat to keep things fresh.
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Old April 10 2010, 04:21 PM   #11
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Oh yeah, I forgot about Sebulba. I guess Ep. 1 did it before the Energizer commercial.
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Old April 10 2010, 05:05 PM   #12
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We've been all over the place lately with the timeline of this show (the ARC-170 Fighters seen on Malastare were introduced late in the Clone Wars), but I really did enjoy this episode. It kept my interest.
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I had to do a double-take when Mace called for troopers Hawkeye and Trapper!
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And the Dugs' design was clever with the inversion of arms and legs -- kind of expanding on the idea of those UFO aliens in the Energizer Bunny commercial -- but I don't really see how a species could evolve that way, adapting its hind limbs for grasping instead of its forelimbs. Although, hmm, given that all four limbs ended in hands, I guess they could be descended from arboreal creatures that used their feet for grabbing fruit, leaves, etc. while hanging from branches, something like that. It's still an awkward design, as seen when they walked.
Yeah, I wondered that too. I remember (either read it or saw in on a video blog) that it was GL's idea during TPM to have the Dugs walk on their arms and use their legs to grasp. It's an interesting visual although I don't see how they could get anything done that way, fight, or run effectively.

This could be a way to show where Mace's mistrust of Anakin comes from...

"You are on this Council but we do not grant you the rank of Master."

"What? Are you still upset over that fucking Zilo beast?"

Anakin and Mace's "relationship" is inconsistent in the films. Mace joins the Council in rejecting Anakin in TPM, saying he's too old. In AOTC, he talks positively about Anakin's abilities and gives him the assignmenet to protect Padme, against Obi-Wan's wishes. In ROTS, he doesn't trust him and OBI-WAN is the guy defending Anakin. He even tells Anakin to his face that if he stays out of the Palpatine confrontation, he will have "earned his trust." The Anakin/Mace and Yoda relationship was portrayed inconsistenly in the prequels.

My thought on Mace's mistrust by ROTS is because of Anakin's close relationship with Palpatine, whose relationship with the Jedi has grown strained.
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I had to do a double-take when Mace called for troopers Hawkeye and Trapper!
If I were him, I'd keep those two on the Radar!
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