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Old March 16 2010, 08:11 PM   #1
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If you had to kill off a character?

So if you had to kill off one character from each trek show, who would get the ax? They must be a main character and the following people are immune....... Mayweather from ENT, Chakotay from VOY , Wesley from TNG, And Jake Sisko from DS9 . they are too easy of an answer. and Kim from VOY, he is so terrible that i block him from my mind.
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Old March 16 2010, 08:18 PM   #2
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Old March 16 2010, 08:19 PM   #3
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Re: If you had to kill off a character?

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So if you had to kill off one character from each trek show, who would get the ax? They must be a main character and the following people are immune....... Mayweather from ENT, Chakotay from VOY , Wesley from TNG, And Jake Sisko from DS9 . they are too easy of an answer.
But not Kim from VOY? How about Chekov?
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Old March 16 2010, 08:20 PM   #4
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Re: If you had to kill off a character?

Why not allow us to kill off certain characters? Anyway, I'll give you Mayweather and Wesley, but Chakotay and Jake? Jake's my favourite character on DS9, and I'd choose Neelix, Janeway, Seven, and Paris to go over Chakotay any day.

Ok, obeying your rules:

TOS- err.. Kirk *runs for cover*. I just don't have the heart to kill off anyone else.
TNG- Worf
DS9- Worf
VOY- Neelix -If you were going to immunify anyone from VOY, you should have done him
ENT- Trip - Oh, wait, they did already...
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Old March 16 2010, 08:30 PM   #5
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Re: If you had to kill off a character?

TOS: Spock
TNG: Riker
DS9: Kira
VOY: Paris
ENT: T'Pol

I think each of these characters' loss would have been greatly felt, therefore providing the greatest dramatic impact.
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Old March 16 2010, 08:44 PM   #6
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Who counts as a main character? Are Uhura, Sulu, Chekov and Scotty main characters in TOS? Are Garak, Dukat, Nog and Kasidy Yates main characters in DS9? And Mayweather in Enterprise was to me just a credited background character. He had absolutely no plot importance. In my answer, only Spock, Scotty, Kirk and McCoy count as a main character in TOS and characters like Garak and Dukat are main characters in DS9.

Kirk - He's the least interesting main character in TOS.
Tasha Yar - I hate her more than Wesley.
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Harry Kim - I would say Neelix but he stopped being annoying in S4 and actually became likeable. Harry Kim, on the other hand, had no real personality.
Archer - A really tough choice. I would say T'Pol, but since Enterprise had only two female main characters...
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Old March 16 2010, 08:49 PM   #7
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Re: If you had to kill off a character?

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TOS: Spock
TNG: Riker
DS9: Kira
VOY: Paris
ENT: T'Pol

I think each of these characters' loss would have been greatly felt, therefore providing the greatest dramatic impact.
Well then how about...

TOS: Kirk
TNG: Picard
DS9: Sisko
VOY: Janeway
ENT: Archer



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Old March 16 2010, 09:01 PM   #8
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Re: If you had to kill off a character?

They still have to have the protagonist from who's point of view the story is told.

I just looked at my answers and saw that they are almost all first officers. Curious.
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Old March 16 2010, 09:02 PM   #9
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Re: If you had to kill off a character?

I added Kim from VOY, My mind must have blocked him out, and main characters refer to the main crew of the ship/station, so daniels from ENT would be immune, as would general martok from DS9.
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Old March 16 2010, 09:05 PM   #10
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Re: If you had to kill off a character?

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TOS: Spock

I think each of these characters' loss would have been greatly felt, therefore providing the greatest dramatic impact.
Well it was easy to tell that in this case seeing as we actually SAW that happen
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Old March 16 2010, 10:20 PM   #11
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Re: If you had to kill off a character?

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TOS: Spock
TNG: Riker
DS9: Kira
VOY: Paris
ENT: T'Pol

I think each of these characters' loss would have been greatly felt, therefore providing the greatest dramatic impact.
Well then how about...

TOS: Kirk
TNG: Picard
DS9: Sisko
VOY: Janeway
ENT: Archer



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They still have to have the protagonist from who's point of view the story is told.

I just looked at my answers and saw that they are almost all first officers. Curious.
Well, come to think of it, Kirk was killed off, although in a TNG movie rather than in TOS/TOS movies; Spock was killed but brought back to life (does it count, then?); Data was killed off in Nemesis; Jadzia was killed off in DS9; Trip was killed in a very stupid way in the ENT 'finale'; and VOY was the only series that didn't kill any of its main cast*, though it did write off Kes from the show.

*however, if you count Trek literature...

However, I don't think any show killed off a main character before the finale, unless the actor had decided to leave the show (Farrell), and didn't they kill Data only because Spiner didn't want to play him anymore?
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Old March 16 2010, 10:22 PM   #12
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Rather than pick one from each series, could I just kill off Worf five times?
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Old March 16 2010, 10:22 PM   #13
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TOS: Spock
TNG: Riker
DS9: Kira
VOY: Paris
ENT: T'Pol

I think each of these characters' loss would have been greatly felt, therefore providing the greatest dramatic impact.
Well then how about...

TOS: Kirk
TNG: Picard
DS9: Sisko
VOY: Janeway
ENT: Archer



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They still have to have the protagonist from who's point of view the story is told.

I just looked at my answers and saw that they are almost all first officers. Curious.
Well, come to think of it, Kirk was killed off, although in a TNG movie rather than in TOS/TOS movies; Spock was killed but brought back to life (does it count, then?); Data was killed off in Nemesis; Jadzia was killed off in DS9; Trip was killed in a very stupid way in the ENT 'finale'; and VOY was the only series that didn't kill any of its main cast*, though it did write off Kes from the show.

*however, if you count Trek literature...

However, I don't think any show killed off a main character before the finale, unless the actor had decided to leave the show (Farrell), and didn't they kill Data only because Spiner didn't want to play him anymore?
Personally, I answered the questions as if it was at the height of each show's run. I didn't really look at the movies at all for this.
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Old March 16 2010, 10:31 PM   #14
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Re: If you had to kill off a character?

Enterprise - Captain Archer. This was a tough call. I also really, really hate T'Pol. However, more than anything else, Jonathan Archer was the weak link of the series. He just doesn't have the cojones to be a credible starship captain.

The Original Series - Hikaru Sulu. Nothing against him. He just seemed to be the least well developed of any othem. Uhura is a close 2nd (unless we're talking about the J.J. Abrams movie).

The Next Generation - Captain Picard. This was a tough call, particularly since you disqualified Wesley Crusher. Tasha Yar would be too obvious since she was killed off early on. Counselor Troi was kinda annoying in the 1st couple seasons but she got better as time went on. Ultimately, I picked Captain Picard because I'd love to see a series focusing on Captain Riker.

Deep Space 9 - Captain Sisko. Other than the obvious (and disqualified) Jake Sisko, Captain Sisko was the character I least related to on the show. To me, he felt more like a distant authority figure like Admiral Ross, not a compelling lead character. For me, the central protagonists of DS9 were always Odo & Kira Nerys.

Voyager - Harry Kim. I don't think disqualifying Chakotay was necessary here. I think you'd find a pretty wide range of selections from Voyager regardless. Voyager had a broad range of annoying and/or dull characters. There's no unanimous target for the fans' ire, like with Travis Mayweather or Wesley Crusher. If anything, I would have disqualified Neelix, who kinda feels like the Jar Jar Binks of the Star Trek universe. True, if I'd had an unfettered choice, I probably would have gone with Chakotay. While I know he has his fans, I'd say that he almost never did anything on the series that couldn't have just as easily been done by another character like Captain Janeway, Tom Paris, or Tuvok. I'm also tempted to kill off Captain Janeway, but Captain Chakotay would be even worse. (Now, if I could kill them both and do a Captain Tuvok series, now we'd be talking!)

Harry Kim wasn't quite as useless as Chakotay. He did have his occasional doomed romance storylines and he was a nice sidekick for Tom Paris. However, he still wasn't a particularly vital character for the series. And, IIRC, he nearly was killed off in Season 4 to make room for Seven of Nine. But then, when People magazine listed Garret Wang on their list of the 50 Most Beautiful People, UPN was loath to give up that free publicity, so they ditched Kes instead. I think that was a pretty serious mistake. Kes was the heart of the series and had really started coming into her own at the end of Season 3. I think she probably had more interesting places to go than any of the other characters that they kept.
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Old March 16 2010, 11:08 PM   #15
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TOS-The kid from 'Miri' who looks like the 'missing link'...

TNG-Picard....(So boring and dry)...

DS9-Hmmm....

VOY-7 of 9

ENT-Trip or Archer
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