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Old March 3 2010, 03:36 PM   #1
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Spider-Man The Gauntlet comics

I'm wondering how good the "Gauntlet" storyline is in the Spidey comics since the first trade just came out.

I've read the first three BND trades and enjoyed them. I really loved "New Ways to Die" and "Election Day", both were classic Spidey stories. "American Son" I found just kinda there. So how does Gauntlet rate against those?

And is the story really just an unconnected series of classic baddies coming back or is there some kind of central story to it?

Also... is Ben Reilly back in the comics now? Is that before or after the Gauntlet?
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Old March 3 2010, 04:19 PM   #2
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Re: Spider-Man The Gauntlet comics

Haha, that was a funny line. When you called BND stories "classic", hilarious.
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Old March 3 2010, 05:50 PM   #3
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I think the "One More Day" thing is an atrocity to be sure, but I definitely loved "New Ways to Die" and "Election Day". As stupid a move as the Mephisto thing was, I am enjoying the new stories.
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Old March 4 2010, 04:34 AM   #4
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Haha, that was a funny line. When you called BND stories "classic", hilarious.
I have to admit, as much as I hate the Mephisto thing, some of the stories that have come after it really have been good!
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Old March 4 2010, 02:38 PM   #5
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Haha, that was a funny line. When you called BND stories "classic", hilarious.
I have to admit, as much as I hate the Mephisto thing, some of the stories that have come after it really have been good!
Same here. Best Spidey has been in a long time, IMO (not counting Ultimate).
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Old March 4 2010, 05:04 PM   #6
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Haha, that was a funny line. When you called BND stories "classic", hilarious.
I have to admit, as much as I hate the Mephisto thing, some of the stories that have come after it really have been good!
Same here. Best Spidey has been in a long time, IMO (not counting Ultimate).
Glad you guys are enjoying it as a whole.
Sadly, however its not the popular opinion using sales as the indicator. When single issue sales, without gimmick variants, can't break into the top 20(or just barely gets in there) its a sad state for Marvel's flagship character.

Its not an issue of 'the economy' either as some like to use as a crutch argument. If it was then well written books like Green Lantern would be down. No, people will pay for the good stuff, which ASM outside a few gems in BND hasn't been.
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Old March 6 2010, 03:57 AM   #7
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Sadly, however its not the popular opinion using sales as the indicator.
Since when is being the #6 best selling book in January, #14th, and #17 (plus being a member of a team that has the #5 best selling book) a poor sales indicator?

My information seems to contradict your made up information.

http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomi...0/2010-01.html

Green Lantern (yay, finally DC, #2!!) with his lightning in a bottle crossover and toy giveaway isn't exactly doing things on his own either. But look at Siege, #1 in January. If you're part of a crossover, you do well.

Spidey's doing well enough post BND. No comic sells through the roof, and he's no exception. But his sales, relatively speaking, are nothing to sneeze at.
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Old March 6 2010, 04:26 AM   #8
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Wow, SEIGE'S numbers suck!
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Old March 6 2010, 05:11 AM   #9
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Wow, SEIGE'S numbers suck!
*shrugs*
All numbers do.
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Old March 6 2010, 05:12 AM   #10
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Re: Spider-Man The Gauntlet comics

Gauntlet, eh?

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Old March 6 2010, 01:51 PM   #11
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So... did anyone read the Gauntlet issues...?
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Old March 6 2010, 09:55 PM   #12
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I haven't read it, but my cousin was trying to sell me on ASM last night, and specifically mentioned the Gauntlet issues as a lot of fun. I didn't ask him if there's an overarcing theme behind all the classic villain appearances, but I can't imagine there wouldn't be.
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Old March 7 2010, 07:12 PM   #13
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Re: Spider-Man The Gauntlet comics

Gauntlet is the kick off to Marvel's Year of Spider-Man arc so yes there is a over arcing theme in the books. I've not yet read any of Gauntlet yet but plan to as the library gets the trades in. I have to admit that I've been enjoying the BND stories for the most part...the stuff with Felicia is interesting
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Old March 8 2010, 07:49 PM   #14
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Sadly, however its not the popular opinion using sales as the indicator.
Since when is being the #6 best selling book in January, #14th, and #17 (plus being a member of a team that has the #5 best selling book) a poor sales indicator?

My information seems to contradict your made up information.

http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomi...0/2010-01.html


Spidey's doing well enough post BND. No comic sells through the roof, and he's no exception. But his sales, relatively speaking, are nothing to sneeze at.
Watch what I do in three steps here.

1-point out how you(intentionally?) left out the qualifing statment of...
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...When single issue sales, without gimmick variants, can't break into the top 20(or just barely gets in there) its a sad state for Marvel's flagship character.
2-bring up Feb 2010 sales from the industry tracker Diamond

Diamond Comics-Feb Sales
If you feel inclined to use your source, just back it up a month to Dec 2009. ASM ranks in at #16, #22 and #23. Nice try using one variant cover month to boost your claim.
15 ASM #620 (2 Covers) 62K
19 ASM #621 57.3K
22 ASM #622 55.8K
Over at the Marvel Comics msg boards we have on ongoing thread where we've been tracking the decline and noting how variant covers and 'old school' villains play into boosting sales at any given time vs the less than stellar status quo BND tales.

3-show you the decline courteous of the ongoing tracking.
OMD
09/07 Amazing Spider-Man #544 150,788...146,215 w/out 4,573 extra printings - OMD (w/variant cover)
12/07 Amazing Spider-Man #545 137,401...124,481 w/out 12,920 extra printings - OMD (w/variant cover)

BND
1/08 AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #546 - 127,958 - BND (w/variant cover)
1/08 AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #547 - 101,213 - BND
1/08 AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #548 - 97,959 - BND
2/08 AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #549 - 101,112 - BND (w/variant cover)
2/08 AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #550 - 90,874 - BND
2/08 AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #551 - 88,084 - BND

...SNIP 20 months of dropping BND sales...

12/09 AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #614 - 59,696
12/09 AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #615 - 63,738 (w/variant covers)
12/09 AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #616 - 58,856
1/10 AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #617 - 76,730 (4 variant covers)
1/10 AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #618 - 61,969 (2 variant covers)
1/10 AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #619 - 56,837
As you can see, I hope you can and don't just glaze over what you don't like, BND Spidey continues to sink in single issue sales. For the record the low point of ASM the last 20yrs was the Bryne/Mackie Chapter One fiasco. They single issue was 48.6K.
So how long till TPTB are forced into re-altering this less than stellar status quo?

Single issues of Dark Horses Buffy the Vampire Slayer have at times beaten BND/ASM(not this feb but she has).
Thor also beats two issue of ASM this past month. Not to knock on Thor but he isn't the flagship character. No way he should now be selling better.

When ASM/BND does NOT have variant covers, sometimes numbering 3-4 covers, Spidey is not only NOT in the top 10 but hovering at or out of the top 20.

BAZINGA!
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Old March 8 2010, 09:56 PM   #15
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Wow, SEIGE'S numbers suck!
*shrugs*
All numbers do.
The culmination of Secret War, Disassembled, Civil War and Secret Invasion barely outperformed GL50.

It probably got its nuts kicked by BN7 in February.

Seems like Siege is Marvel's Final Crisis as Dark Reign was their Countdown.
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