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Old March 9 2010, 02:32 AM   #706
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I didn't see the whole tribute to the Hollywood personalities who died in the past year, but someone said Farrah Fawcett was not included. What about Brittany Murphy.
Brittany Murphy was in it (as well as Michael Jackson.) Farrah Fawcett, Bea Arthur and Pernell Roberts were -notably- not in it.
Was Jackson actually in any movies. By that I'm talking about actual movies, so Music Videos don't really count. I was surprised that Jackson was included but Fawcett was not.
Jackson was in, starred, one movie. Moonwalker which is a music video/clumbsy narrative movie that came out sometime in the late 80s. But, as I said, it's probably more from his music work being in so many movies.

FWIW, here's his IMDB page: Jackson's IMDB
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Old March 9 2010, 02:38 AM   #707
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One thing I always found funny are critics who complain years later about Rocky beating out Network, All the President's Men, and Taxi Driver. What I say to it...after 33 years, people still remember Rocky. It's arguably one of the most popular and memorable Best Picture winners of all-time. Does anyone remember Network and All the President's Men? People remember Taxi Driver because of DeNiro/Scorscee but it's more infamous because it was the film that nutjob Hincley (or whatever his name was) got obsessed with Jode Foster and used that to shoot Reagan.
People don't remember Network anymore? I don't think that's true, but if it is, sad. Rocky remains the most populist picture of the lot, as well as the only one to have produced sequels (including a recent follow-up), so it's no suprise that it is still remembered.
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Old March 9 2010, 02:40 AM   #708
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Isn't Taxi Driver, like, one of the most quoted movies next to The Godfather?
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Old March 9 2010, 02:44 AM   #709
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As for the anti-American, anti-military bent, the filmmakers/writers can take that attitude and cram it up their asses. I didn't like it during the Vietnam era, I don't like it now.
Where is this coming from? I dont recall anyone being anti-American or Anti-Military last night. The Hurt Locker folks pretty much dedicated every award they won to the Armed Forces.
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Old March 9 2010, 02:52 AM   #710
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Isn't Taxi Driver, like, one of the most quoted movies next to The Godfather?
Probably, although I'd be willing to bet a lot of people don't really know where "You talking to me?" actually came from.
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Old March 9 2010, 03:28 AM   #711
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I only cared about Mo'nique winning. Once I saw she won I turned it off.
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Old March 9 2010, 03:38 AM   #712
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well, I guess now we have an idea of what Avatar might have been like if Cameron had decided to use makeup for the Navi instead of CGI. *shudders*
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Old March 9 2010, 04:03 AM   #713
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* I know Saving Private Ryan didn't win Best Picture. A comedy, Shakespeare in Love did. I'm sure someone griped about Shakespeare being "just another comedy", too.
Another screw up by the Academy

And who is saying Annie Hall is better than the original Star Wars?

Oh Please!

Even for a Star Trek fanboy that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen posted here.
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Old March 9 2010, 04:17 AM   #714
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Rocky certainly deserved Best Picture. Annie Hall is memorable as a movie to this day; Star Wars generated a franchise which has kept it in the public view, so comparisons on that basis are misleading. No one need apologize for preferring Annie Hall to Star Wars.
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Old March 9 2010, 04:20 AM   #715
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Maybe I overreacted a little on some of the films but I see this criticism/observation a lot by film critics yet they never bring up the fact that Rocky is still the best remembered and popular Best Picture's of all-time.

The most popular Best Picture's....any list has to be include the two Godfather films and Rocky.
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Old March 9 2010, 05:25 AM   #716
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And who is saying Annie Hall is better than the original Star Wars?

Oh Please!

Even for a Star Trek fanboy that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen posted here.
Most ridiculous thing you've ever seen posted here?

You are the one who claimed recently that everyone would rank Star Wars in their top ten films of all time lists, right?
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Old March 9 2010, 05:35 AM   #717
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I like "Rocky", "All the President's Men" and "Network" almost equally. Just saw the latter two last year, actually. I think they are a lot more mature and intelligent than "Rocky", but I can understand why it was chosen over them and don't consider that a poor decision.

The simple fact is that "Rocky" has a more universal appeal. Those other two are so focused on one specific aspect of American culture (one, political corruption/journalism in America and two, the immorality and sensationalizing of television in America). Both are worthy topics covered in extremely eloquent and thoughtful films, but "Rocky" is also brilliant, just in a different way. Where it succeeds above those movies is in the power of its sentimentality. It can be inspirational and moving to audiences all over the world, while the other movies lack heart (on purpose) and are very America-centric. "Rocky" is heartwarming without being manipulative and carried by uniquely endearing characters brought to life with lovely performances and dialogue.

These examples people are giving of movies getting robbed really baffle me. The only one I really agree with is "Saving Private Ryan". That movie was a harrowing, unforgettable work of genius, and "Shakespeare in Love" is a corny, pretentious piece of trash I can't even get through watching from start to finish. Even as someone who majored in English and loves Shakespeare's work, I find that movie awful. Harvey, thanks for backing me up on "Annie Hall". I respect the success and pop culture impact of "Star Wars" as well its achievements in special effects, but I found all of the movies in the series shallow and forgettable. There's no way one of them deserved to be awarded above one of the best filmed love stories of all time.
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Old March 9 2010, 07:21 AM   #718
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And who is saying Annie Hall is better than the original Star Wars?

Oh Please!

Even for a Star Trek fanboy that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen posted here.
Most ridiculous thing you've ever seen posted here?

You are the one who claimed recently that everyone would rank Star Wars in their top ten films of all time lists, right?
Well for sci-fi fans it's a no brainier, but if you don't care for the genre then yes, I could see it not making your top ten.

That post was made in the context of the type of fan that posts here, but then again I forgot some people that post here only like Star Trek, and TOS at that too.
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Old March 9 2010, 07:53 AM   #719
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If your list was only science fiction films, then it would break my top ten, but if it included other genres, I'd have a hard time including Star Wars before 2001: A Space Odyssey, Blade Runner, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, and a one or two others.

And I'm a huge science fiction fan. And a huge Star Trek fan, having enjoyed all six series (including VOY, ENT, and TAS!). But, to each his own.
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Old March 9 2010, 10:07 AM   #720
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As for the anti-American, anti-military bent, the filmmakers/writers can take that attitude and cram it up their asses. I didn't like it during the Vietnam era, I don't like it now.
*raises eyebrow*

err... what? Are you talking The Hurt Locker? Really?

This is the one Hollywood war movie that conservatives actually kinda like.

Are you sure you're not confusing it with some other war movie?
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