Prometheus: Ridley Scott returns to Sci-Fi - Page 4

Deckerd · April 27 2010, 05:53 PM

Like or loathe Avatar, nobody can question that it sets a whole new standard for future movies, especially movies that are striving for the spectacular, which tend to be wholly or partly in the fantasy genre.

Admiral Buzzkill · April 27 2010, 05:55 PM

Exactly. And the studios are highly motivated to use 3D to push the whole exhibition industry toward digital distribution.

Deckerd · April 27 2010, 06:01 PM

Anyhoo, I'm encouraged that Ridley Scott's involved but, as with George Lucas, I have a sneaking suspicion his best work's far behind him. I don't see him making anything as understated and deeply disturbing as Alien in this day and age. Remember that almost all of the horror was just off-screen, or heard through the coms. I don't think any big budget movie director would dare to be that imaginative (and restrained) nowadays..

LitmusDragon · April 27 2010, 06:05 PM

I'm encouraged by "really nasty". I was thinking the only way to do this correctly would be to push the horror to the next level (the action angle has been done to death). Maybe I'm reading too much into that statement but I'd like to think that's what he meant.

Don't ask me how you're supposed to one-up the chestburster, but I'd be curious to see it.

Hartzilla2007 · April 27 2010, 07:19 PM

LitmusDragon wrote:

Don't ask me how you're supposed to one-up the chestburster, but I'd be curious to see it.

Maybe a buttload of them coming out of a Space Jockey?

davejames · April 27 2010, 07:57 PM

I was also intrigued by something he said in another interview-- that he felt he'd have to probably redesign the Alien itself, because of how familiar and play-out the original's become.

Frankly I have to agree with him. Now that we know what every inch of it looks like, everything it's capable of, and how it's entire damn life cycle works, there's just no mystery to it anymore.

I wouldn't change the shape entirely, but a lot of the details definitely need to be rethought.

Bishbot · April 27 2010, 09:13 PM

Starkers wrote:

Well I'm gladd Scott is involved, but the prequel idea makes me nervous, and God does everything have to be in 3D now?

Yes, everything that can utilise it well now has to be in 3D because why the hell not? 3D is like 2D but slightly better. It's like saying "why does everything have to have surround sound" (or even just "sound"). This is a big scifi picture which will undoubtedly have some sights that 3D will be great for.

Tulin wrote:

God - I don't want to think of "Alien" and "Avatar" mixing.

Yes you do. You've thought about it before. You said in the Avatar thread that the only thing that would redeem Avatar were if it were set in the Alien universe.

I'm not keen on redesigning the Alien. A little bit, sure, every film has changed them a little (although the AvP2 ones seem pretty much exactly the same as the ones from Aliens). It needs to be pretty familiar if it can be: big penis shaped head, inner jaw, drooling teeth, bony "bio-mechanical" design, long tail with a blade... once you've got all that I can't see what else you can change and be radically different.

I am encouraged by the idea that it will be "really nasty" though

IcecreamLtDan · April 27 2010, 10:49 PM

Yea,unfortunately, 3D films give me headaches, a problem I don't have with 2d films, well, ones that don't suck anyway, so when they all go 3d I guess I won't be watching movies anymore.

Base_Delta_Zero · April 27 2010, 11:00 PM

IcecreamLtDan wrote:

Yea,unfortunately, 3D films give me headaches, a problem I don't have with 2d films, well, ones that don't suck anyway, so when they all go 3d I guess I won't be watching movies anymore.

Same here. The max I've been able to withstand a 3d film was 45 minutes.

Harvey · April 27 2010, 11:15 PM

3-D has certainly been lucrative for studios and theatres thus far. Despite mixed reviews which especially warned of the bad 3-D, both Alice in Wonderland and Clash of the Titans were big hits. If the public continues to lap up anything that is 3-D, paying the increased ticket prices for these pictures, then every big-budget studio picture will be released primarily in 3-D in short order.

I had hoped for a public backlash against converted 3-D films, but so far, no such luck. I'm sure Scott's eye for intense visual detail will lend itself well to the format, especially if it begins life in 3-D, but few filmmakers are so gifted/obsessed with such details.

melancholymecha · April 27 2010, 11:38 PM

I hope we get another "synthetic" I love those milk spewing bastards!

even better get Sharlto to play one, maybe the first prototype sent with a team... yeah! Oh that'd be so awesome!

Tulin · April 28 2010, 12:09 AM

Bishbot wrote:

Tulin wrote:

God - I don't want to think of "Alien" and "Avatar" mixing.

Yes you do. You've thought about it before. You said in the Avatar thread that the only thing that would redeem Avatar were if it were set in the Alien universe.

I KNOW this would never happen but I was specifically thinking of the two styles being mixed. I mean I don't want to think about CGI xenos in a faux fantasy world like Avatar.

Hartzilla2007 · April 28 2010, 12:11 AM

Bishbot wrote:

Starkers wrote:

Well I'm gladd Scott is involved, but the prequel idea makes me nervous, and God does everything have to be in 3D now?

Yes, everything that can utilise it well now has to be in 3D because why the hell not? 3D is like 2D but slightly better. It's like saying "why does everything have to have surround sound" (or even just "sound"). This is a big scifi picture which will undoubtedly have some sights that 3D will be great for.

Tulin wrote:

God - I don't want to think of "Alien" and "Avatar" mixing.

Yes you do. You've thought about it before. You said in the Avatar thread that the only thing that would redeem Avatar were if it were set in the Alien universe.

I'm not keen on redesigning the Alien. A little bit, sure, every film has changed them a little (although the AvP2 ones seem pretty much exactly the same as the ones from Aliens). It needs to be pretty familiar if it can be: big penis shaped head, inner jaw, drooling teeth, bony "bio-mechanical" design, long tail with a blade... once you've got all that I can't see what else you can change and be radically different.

Well that might depend on what it's host was for all we know it might burst out of some huge hulking 6 armed alien and take non attributes from said alien like the one in 3 did from the dog.

Deckerd · April 28 2010, 09:55 AM

The aliens take on the body shape of whatever they incubate inside. That's why most of the aliens you see are humanoid.

Starkers · April 28 2010, 12:20 PM

Bishbot wrote:

Starkers wrote:

Well I'm gladd Scott is involved, but the prequel idea makes me nervous, and God does everything have to be in 3D now?

Yes, everything that can utilise it well now has to be in 3D because why the hell not? 3D is like 2D but slightly better. It's like saying "why does everything have to have surround sound" (or even just "sound"). This is a big scifi picture which will undoubtedly have some sights that 3D will be great for.

I just don't see it as being slightly better, at least not in its current form. Personally I found watching Avatar tiring, kept having to take the damn glasses off, and I didn't feel like I gained that much by it being in 3D, if anything it seemed jarring, kept constantly reminding me I was watching a film so I didn't feel I could lose myself in the story.

I realise I'm an old luddite who's in a minority here though

A 3D chestbuster on the other hand...hmm, you'd have to do that wouldn't you if you were Scott!

April 27 2010, 05:53 PM	#46
Deckerd Fleet Arse Location: in the Frozen Wastes	Re: Scott talks about Alien prequel Like or loathe Avatar, nobody can question that it sets a whole new standard for future movies, especially movies that are striving for the spectacular, which tend to be wholly or partly in the fantasy genre. __________________ They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance.

April 27 2010, 05:55 PM	#47
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: Scott talks about Alien prequel Exactly. And the studios are highly motivated to use 3D to push the whole exhibition industry toward digital distribution. __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

April 27 2010, 06:01 PM	#48
Deckerd Fleet Arse Location: in the Frozen Wastes	Re: Scott talks about Alien prequel Anyhoo, I'm encouraged that Ridley Scott's involved but, as with George Lucas, I have a sneaking suspicion his best work's far behind him. I don't see him making anything as understated and deeply disturbing as Alien in this day and age. Remember that almost all of the horror was just off-screen, or heard through the coms. I don't think any big budget movie director would dare to be that imaginative (and restrained) nowadays.. __________________ They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance.

April 27 2010, 06:05 PM	#49
LitmusDragon Commodore Location: The Barmuda Triangle	Re: Scott talks about Alien prequel I'm encouraged by "really nasty". I was thinking the only way to do this correctly would be to push the horror to the next level (the action angle has been done to death). Maybe I'm reading too much into that statement but I'd like to think that's what he meant. Don't ask me how you're supposed to one-up the chestburster, but I'd be curious to see it. __________________ Check out my photos of Oregon on Facebook Linguiphiles, unite!

April 27 2010, 07:57 PM	#51
davejames Vice Admiral Location: Sac, Ca	Re: Scott talks about Alien prequel I was also intrigued by something he said in another interview-- that he felt he'd have to probably redesign the Alien itself, because of how familiar and play-out the original's become. Frankly I have to agree with him. Now that we know what every inch of it looks like, everything it's capable of, and how it's entire damn life cycle works, there's just no mystery to it anymore. I wouldn't change the shape entirely, but a lot of the details definitely need to be rethought.

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April 27 2010, 10:49 PM	#53
IcecreamLtDan Commander Location: North Carolina, USA	Re: Scott talks about Alien prequel Yea,unfortunately, 3D films give me headaches, a problem I don't have with 2d films, well, ones that don't suck anyway, so when they all go 3d I guess I won't be watching movies anymore.

April 27 2010, 11:15 PM	#55
Harvey Admiral	Re: Scott talks about Alien prequel 3-D has certainly been lucrative for studios and theatres thus far. Despite mixed reviews which especially warned of the bad 3-D, both Alice in Wonderland and Clash of the Titans were big hits. If the public continues to lap up anything that is 3-D, paying the increased ticket prices for these pictures, then every big-budget studio picture will be released primarily in 3-D in short order. I had hoped for a public backlash against converted 3-D films, but so far, no such luck. I'm sure Scott's eye for intense visual detail will lend itself well to the format, especially if it begins life in 3-D, but few filmmakers are so gifted/obsessed with such details. __________________ "What do you hear, Starbuck?" "Nothing but the rain, sir." "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat."

April 27 2010, 11:38 PM	#56
melancholymecha Rear Admiral	Re: Scott talks about Alien prequel I hope we get another "synthetic" I love those milk spewing bastards! even better get Sharlto to play one, maybe the first prototype sent with a team... yeah! Oh that'd be so awesome!

April 28 2010, 09:55 AM	#59
Deckerd Fleet Arse Location: in the Frozen Wastes	Re: Scott talks about Alien prequel The aliens take on the body shape of whatever they incubate inside. That's why most of the aliens you see are humanoid. __________________ They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance.