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Old December 26 2011, 01:17 PM   #391
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The entire plot of the movie was recently leaked online. The movie has some INSANE ties to the Alien series.
Its almost certainly fake because of its ties to the Alien series. If its the same synopsis as i read, then yeah its a great idea for a story. But its probably not the one we are going to see next year in Prometheus.

It's easy to confuse the reel world (sci fi, art, what have you) with the real world ($$$$ game) especially when you're altruistic like he is. The guys at bad robot and lost are scam artists to me - good ones. Hey, I hope not, but I don't care.
Personally i find the people behind nuTrek to be piss poor writers and a lousy director, all of whom favour flash over any substance what so ever. But that doesn't make them scam artists.

They were paid to write a script and produce a movie. They did so. It may not be to my tastes or yours but they did the job they were hired to do. To be scam artists they would have had to have been hired to make the film, then disappeared with the money never to be seen again.

Also you seem to have some bizarre ideas about the people you do like. All television and cinema revolves around money. Its called Show Business for a reason.
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Old December 26 2011, 01:24 PM   #392
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I might be confusing usernames, but I'm pretty sure this is the same guy who thinks he invented Firefly in the form of a Deep Space 9 script and Joss Whedon stole it from Ira Behr.
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Old December 26 2011, 01:36 PM   #393
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I guess it's possible that was a fake but personally I loved that story. I hope it turns out to be true.
Doesn't seem like Lindelof's work. It didn't contain nearly enough of the usual bullshit that JJ's cabal members consider plot elements.
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Old December 26 2011, 08:05 PM   #394
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Luckily the trailer proved this "leaked" plot to be fake.
Holy crap. Just read it, and I can't believe anyone would seriously believe that was real. It's convoluted beyond belief, the scifi is way too high-concept (Wormholes? Star Beasts? Seriously?), and it doesn't feel remotely connected to the gritty, atmospheric, down to earth world that Ridley Scott created in Alien.

It reads more like a bad scifi novel or something. There might be a couple things that it guessed right, but the general style and tone just feels COMPLETELY off.
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Old December 27 2011, 12:11 AM   #395
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I read one supposed summary, and I kind of wish I didn't. I've been trying to obsessively follow this whilst also remain as spoiler free as possible. So now I kind of read one that might have given away a few things I wish I hadn't if they are true. Trying to forget!

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Old December 27 2011, 12:59 AM   #396
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I might be confusing usernames, but I'm pretty sure this is the same guy who thinks he invented Firefly in the form of a Deep Space 9 script and Joss Whedon stole it from Ira Behr.
No, it was 'Serenity' from a DS9 script of mine. Though I just noticed it's also the friggin' plot/premise of Blake's Seven - go figure.
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Old December 27 2011, 01:25 AM   #397
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I made my mom and sister watch this trailer while home for Christmas this weekend. My mom thought it was great and recognized the derelict ship from "Alien." My sister thought it looked interesting and scary, and then I found out she had never seen any of the "Alien" movies at all! I found that wholly unacceptable, so I made her watch the first two films with me. She didn't like the first one (which I understand; it hasn't aged particularly well), but she thought the second one was great.
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Old December 27 2011, 01:41 AM   #398
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Alien hasn't aged well? I just watched the blu-ray version for the first time last night, and thought it looked spectacular. Everything from the incredibly detailed ship to the eerily believable alien planet could have held up perfectly on screen today. If it wasn't for a couple, obviously painted matte shots, you'd never think it was made in 1979. Hell, even the actors don't really look like they're from the 70s (at least not as bad as the actors in Star Wars or ST:TMP do).

Obviously it's a bit arty and deliberately paced, but no more than, say, The Sixth Sense was.
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Old December 27 2011, 01:45 AM   #399
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Visually, it has aged just fine. But the storytelling is slooooooooooooooow. It feels like it takes a half hour in the beginning just to wake the crew up! It's an okay movie, and I realize there is a certain mood and tone that Ridley Scott is trying to accomplish, but I just don't think it works that well anymore.
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Old December 27 2011, 02:48 AM   #400
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Hasn't aged well? Alien is a classic film and a work of art. It doesn't age. It just is.
Now, The Seven Ups, THAT has aged. (a bit)
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Old December 27 2011, 03:48 AM   #401
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There is more than enough stuff in that leaked fake script that seems to jive with what we see in the trailer. It may not be completely accurate, but I suspect it's closer than we think. And it smells exactly like the stuff the Lost factory churns out.
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Old December 27 2011, 02:32 PM   #402
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The film Alien followed the rules of a true thriller. Aside from one shocking scene, which the cast aside from John Hurt were not prepared for, most of the horror was off-screen. This makes it more scary than on-screen. It was a classic suspense film. Many people want action from the start because that's what films do nowadays. Personally I like the slow burn, and since Alien is considered an all time classic, that would be the majority view.
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Old December 27 2011, 05:14 PM   #403
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All this Alien talk makes me want to watch the movie again. I thinks I wills!
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Old December 27 2011, 06:18 PM   #404
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The film Alien followed the rules of a true thriller. Aside from one shocking scene, which the cast aside from John Hurt were not prepared for, most of the horror was off-screen. This makes it more scary than on-screen. It was a classic suspense film. Many people want action from the start because that's what films do nowadays. Personally I like the slow burn, and since Alien is considered an all time classic, that would be the majority view.
I wasn't really concerned with getting a bunch of people on my side or anything. I understand that it's a classic film and that my opinion is probably in the minority, but that doesn't make my opinion any less valid.

Horror movies have never done much for me in the first place. For one, they don't scare me. Ever. I was never held in any kind of suspense. I have no problem with slow movies, but "Alien" is one that just hasn't grown well on me. Every time I watch it I find new things to criticize, and I like it less. The sequel "Aliens," on the other hand, I find new things to love about it every time.
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Old December 27 2011, 06:21 PM   #405
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Not sure what you're arguing about. Are you saying you must have the last word? I can play that for days.
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