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Old December 22 2011, 11:18 AM   #256
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On the flip side, for such an advanced race, you'd think they could come up with a quicker, more effecient weapon than this-- a creature with a really elaborate life cycle, which has to spend hours gestating in another creature, and which can be frightened off by fire, of all things.

And oh yeah, it can be blown apart by simple projectile weapons as well.
Ridley Scott's alien was indestructible, unstoppable and uncommunicable. The only way Ripley got rid of it was to blow it out an airlock and there's no evidence to suggest even that killed it. The alien was only Disneyfied from the second movie on.
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Old December 22 2011, 11:33 AM   #257
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Xenomorphs combine the genetic traits amalgamated in the queen with the host's specialisation to the environment the final alien will end up in.
Adapting a biological killing machine to a new environment within a 24 hour time frame doesn't seem that inefficient.
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Old December 22 2011, 01:11 PM   #258
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On the flip side, for such an advanced race, you'd think they could come up with a quicker, more effecient weapon than this-- a creature with a really elaborate life cycle, which has to spend hours gestating in another creature, and which can be frightened off by fire, of all things.

And oh yeah, it can be blown apart by simple projectile weapons as well.
Ridley Scott's alien was indestructible, unstoppable and uncommunicable. The only way Ripley got rid of it was to blow it out an airlock and there's no evidence to suggest even that killed it. The alien was only Disneyfied from the second movie on.
Not so. In the first film it was made clear that it wasn't invulnerable (they cut into one with a simple surgical tool) and I think even Dan O'Bannon said the thing wasn't meant to be indestructible. That's why he came up with acid for blood as a defence mechanism; as Parker says in the film "...you don't dare kill it."

That wasn't so much of a problem in the second film because they weren't on a space ship...though even that didn't stop Drake from getting his face melted off.
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Old December 22 2011, 01:52 PM   #259
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Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it the ovipositor they cut into? And wasn't it the ovipositor you didn't dare kill?
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Old December 22 2011, 02:09 PM   #260
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The face-hugger? Yes and they had no reason to presume "Kane's son" was any different. Why else do you think they went after the thing with cattleprods, nets and flame-throwers? They had guns at their disposal; you can see them quite clearly when they investigated the wreck. Granted, they also thought the thing was still the size of a cat at the time, but that doesn't change the facts.

As I said, Dan O'Bannon was pretty explicit in on of the DVD interviews that he didn't like the idea of some invulnerable beast where the bullets would just bounce off it. He wanted it to be a plausible, logical and extremely dangerous animal, not some supernatural terror.
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Old December 22 2011, 02:12 PM   #261
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The face-hugger? Yes and they had no reason to presume "Kane's son" was any different. As I said, Dan O'Bannon was pretty explicit in on of the DVD interviews that he didn't like the idea of some invulnerable beast where the bullets would just bounce off it. He wanted it to be a plausible, logical and extremely dangerous animal, not some supernatural terror.
So my statement still stands. As far as the crew were concerned, the alien was unkillable, unstoppable and uncommunicable. It was only in the sequels that it had all its teeth pulled. Whatever someone said on an interview, similar to all the statements the Great Man made himself after Blade Runner, is immaterial to the information we are given on film.
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Old December 22 2011, 02:38 PM   #262
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Uncommunicable; sure. The other two? Not at all. Just looking at the ending you see Ripley shoot the thing with a harpoon gun and obliterate it in the the engines' plasma exhaust. Not indestructible, not unstoppable. All this information is there on screen for those that pay attention. That doesn't however make it any less lethal or terrifying.
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Old December 22 2011, 06:19 PM   #263
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Xenomorphs combine the genetic traits amalgamated in the queen with the host's specialisation to the environment the final alien will end up in.
Adapting a biological killing machine to a new environment within a 24 hour time frame doesn't seem that inefficient.
I'm not saying it's not an effecient little killer. I just think if you really wanted to wipe out an enemy, you'd be better off with some poison gas or a freakin nuclear bomb or something.

Engineering some creature who has to sneak around in the air ducts and kill people one at a time just doesn't seem like the best way. And even if you have an army of those things, we already saw in Aliens how a small force of marines can stand up to them (even if only barely). You give those marines more advanced weaponry, and the xenomorphs wouldn't stand a chance.
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Old December 22 2011, 06:33 PM   #264
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Awesome teaser trailer. I'm pumped.
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Old December 22 2011, 06:58 PM   #265
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Wow. Even without the aliens, that is one creepy ass trailer.
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Old December 22 2011, 07:00 PM   #266
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Does anyone have a link to a 1080p version of the teaser???

I've seen it once now in a pretty blurry form (still looks great), but I want to see a better version.
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Old December 22 2011, 07:05 PM   #267
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Does anyone have a link to a 1080p version of the teaser???

I've seen it once now in a pretty blurry form (still looks great), but I want to see a better version.
this isn't 1080, but there should be a link to one from it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVlZ9UZZ8fE&feature=youtu.be
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Old December 22 2011, 07:07 PM   #268
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Does anyone have a link to a 1080p version of the teaser???

I've seen it once now in a pretty blurry form (still looks great), but I want to see a better version.
this isn't 1080, but there should be a link to one from it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVlZ9UZZ8fE&feature=youtu.be
Nope... That's just 360p scaled up by the uploader.
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Old December 22 2011, 07:29 PM   #269
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There is no 1080p version released yet
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Old December 22 2011, 07:48 PM   #270
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Here we go... Much better quality (720p): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sftuxbvGwiU

Still waiting for 1080p... Apparently the Quicktime HD version is being release around noon pacifc time.
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