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Old February 20 2010, 12:21 AM   #16
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Re: Majel Barrett Roddenberry-Number One

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in other words Star Trek(1966-1969), was ahead of it's time in some respects but behind the times when it came to showing women in command positions, aka starship captain's ? Some vision of the future, eh, just for fairness when was the first female captain referred to on TNG?

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IIRC the first female captain seen on Star Trek was the captain of the Saratoga in the opening scene of TVH, a little short of a year shy of TNG's premier.
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Old February 20 2010, 12:35 AM   #17
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The first female Starfleet captain, that is. There was, of course, the Commander from "The Enterprise Incident," whose rank was apparently the equivalent of a captain (or maybe even a fleet captain or commodore, since she seemed to be in command of the whole 3-vessel force).
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Old February 20 2010, 12:56 AM   #18
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I think she would have made a good Captain or even a doctor, hell she has a great computer voice!!!
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Old February 20 2010, 01:00 AM   #19
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Chapel was a doctor in TMP.
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Old February 20 2010, 10:59 AM   #20
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Majel had a very strong presence and her voice could carry a lot of authority. She would have been great. Personally, I'd have preferred if they had focused on her scientific background and made her head of life sciences rather than remaining an appendage to McCoy. At the very least she is qualified in biology, paleobiology, and atrobiology because of hre background with Roger Korby - the Louis Pasteur of arhaeological medicine. She would then have had reasons to work closely with both McCoy and Spock and would not have been tied to sickbay so much.

As it is, NuTrek has decided to keep her as a nurse (so Korby must have gone missing already in the new timeline). I hope they change their minds and use her in a wider context.
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Old February 20 2010, 01:05 PM   #21
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Number One and Nurse Chapel aren't the same character, they were just played by the same actress.
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Old February 20 2010, 03:31 PM   #22
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Number One and Nurse Chapel aren't the same character, they were just played by the same actress.
I don't think there's anyone here who doesn't know that. We're talking about the actress and her various roles, not just about one character.
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Old February 20 2010, 04:49 PM   #23
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Didn't we decide Janice Lester was just plain crazy, and shouldn't be paid any attention?
She was a little off her rocker, but no where in that episode does Kirk debate her 'star fleet is sexist' remarks. And I think, in the 60s, thats the message they wanted to convey. That the military, or society, was sexist in these matters.

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Old February 20 2010, 06:20 PM   #24
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Number One and Nurse Chapel aren't the same character, they were just played by the same actress.
That just goes shows the the acting ability of Majel Barrett, even more so when she plays Lwaxana Troi on TNG! IMO

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Old February 22 2010, 04:24 AM   #25
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Also, Number One was slated to be an admiral sitting beside Robert April commenting on a televised event in the "Lost Years Saga" novel, "A Flag Full of Stars" by Brad Ferguson, but it was during a time of tight control and she had to be renamed Timothea Rogers, with no reveal that she was a promoted Number One.
Having read the writer's draft of AFFOS, I'm eternally GLAD Rogers wasn't Number One. Mainly because she's portrayed in an incredibly unflattering light in that novel as a bitter, unattractive, cold fish and an object of pity and scorn. You can read excerpts and analysis here, to see what I mean.

However, I heartily second the recommendation of IDW's Crew and the reprint of Early Voyages. Fandom has really embraced the character--there's loads of TOS and AOS stories being written about her since the new film, and I'm really looking forward to Stern's Children of Kings this spring.

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Old February 22 2010, 07:43 AM   #26
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If by Early Voyages you mean the comic, then yes I cannot agree enough - it's a great series (sadly cut short). Those who have read it will recognise my avatar as the cover of the premiere issue.
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Old February 22 2010, 08:37 AM   #27
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At the very least she is qualified in biology, paleobiology, and atrobiology because of hre background with Roger Korby - the Louis Pasteur of arhaeological medicine.
And she makes a great plameek soup.
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Old February 22 2010, 08:42 AM   #28
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Didn't we decide Janice Lester was just plain crazy, and shouldn't be paid any attention?
She was a little off her rocker, but no where in that episode does Kirk debate her 'star fleet is sexist' remarks.
Most likely Kirk knew it was a lost cause - Lester, insane as she was, wouldn't listen to anything he said, so it would have been pointless to debate her.
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Old February 22 2010, 09:29 AM   #29
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Having read the writer's draft of AFFOS, I'm eternally GLAD Rogers wasn't Number One.
The amazing thing for me was that I read the novel as published and had a light bulb moment that the character was intended to be Number One. Not quite sure what did it, but I somehow picked up a vibe. I speculated about it online - and Brad Ferguson wrote me an email confirming my suspicions, and pointing out a then-link to his PDF of the original draft!

That was so cool!
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Old February 23 2010, 09:23 PM   #30
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Number One and Nurse Chapel aren't the same character, they were just played by the same actress.

There was a novel (can't remember which) which had "Number One" identified as Chapel's older sister, hence the resemblence. Not a bad bit of retro-conning.
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